Question: How do the inhabitants of Golarion survive the destruction/moving of their planet?
Theory: More and more portals to Aballon open up, allowing hundreds, if not thousands, of refugees to flee Golarion as a terrible danger threatens it. When the doorways go dead, the inhabitants explore their new world with the inhabitants of one Ice Well discovering an ancient ruin housing a recording from Epoch. It mentions it's admiration of humans and offers them a new universe to explore, giving them the technology of FTL.
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Speculate wildly?
Rovagug's imprisoned in Golarion, right? Maybe he escaped, destroying Golarion, and the gods took back the pieces of Golarion, working with some technologically advanced races, and imprisoned him in the Cage V2.0. Maybe Aroden was merely sleeping, and woke up to save his city of Absalom.
There could have been an exodus through the aiudara if there had been time to prepare. Maybe Golarion had been slowly dying? If there are ships like in Spelljammers, could the aiudara have just been, well, moved? Maybe there's one on Absalom station, or there are a few just floating around.
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I have a feeling that "Golarion is missing" will be the setting's "Aroden is dead"
It's mostly going to exist so nothing in the setting will contradict future and existing Pathfinder AP's
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Races of Golarion probably made a mass exodus to Castrovel, Verces or Triaxus through Elf Gates if we assume that they got off the planet before they finally reverse engineered that spaceship in Numeria.
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I have a feeling that "Golarion is missing" will be the setting's "Aroden is dead"
It's mostly going to exist so nothing in the setting will contradict future and existing Pathfinder AP's
Golarion will be our Gallifrey.
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If Absalom Station actually replaced Golarion, the origin of that station would be a major mystery of the setting. But I am more inclined to believe that people from Golarion built Absalom Station in orbit around Golarion and that it got left behind in Golarion's orbit around the sun when Golarion itself disappeared.
As for the aiudaras that connected to Golarion, I would assume that they simply stopped working.
If interstellar travel exists in this setting, expect many interstellar travelers to return home with rumors that Golarion has been seen in some distant solar system. Of course, none of these rumors to date have panned out.
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The Aboleth tried their Starstone trick again, but this time they mistakenly shot Golarion itself into deep space...
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The goblins have succeeded in stealing the entire planet, but they forgot where they put it.
Yeah, mounting a tricorne hat-shaped spelljammer helm to Rovagug's noggin so we could start Uber-in-Space may not have been the most well-thought-out idea.
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Calling it right now: Eox will be Starfinder's "big villain"
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Calling it right now: Eox will be Starfinder's "big villain"
Eox shall always win, because their ships need not waste valuable space and resources on such frivolities as "life support" and "crew supplies." :p
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Calling it right now: Eox will be Starfinder's "big villain"Eox shall always win, because their ships need not waste valuable space and resources on such frivolities as "life support" and "crew supplies." :p
Mercy is for the living.
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What little we know of the setting lends itself to a lot of speculation and generates a lot of questions.
Here's one that occurred to me:
If Golarion is missing and Absalom Station has taken it's place but the rest of the solar system is present, where do the aiudara on Castrovel go to now?
What other questions do you folks have? Please post them here so we can wrestle with them together!
What if Aroden (whether an ascended AI who modeled himself on, or the real Aroden himself doesn't matter/up for debate) made his presence known when Rovagug broke free from imprisonment in Golarion? What if Aroden knew he needed the help of other gods to raise Absalom into a Spaceship?
Think about it: Pharasma saw that Rovagug would eventually break free:
Aroden's absence allowed Cayden Cailean, Iomedae, Norgorber to attain godhood. How many more were able to ascend in the time between Pathfinder and Starfinder?
The Old Gods were fighting Rovagog, Aroden, Cayden Cailean, Iomedae and the other Star-stone gods got as many mortals as they could to Absalom, and launched it as a self-sustaining vessel: Absalom station. The Station was taken as far away as possible from Golarion, to keep the mortals safe.
Whether the Old Gods are dead, or out of range of their followers is unknown... but the clerics of the old gods were depowered.
After that, we have 3 options:
1) Aroden goes full "Humanity FY Master Race", and the other races launched "The Exodus of Absalom" to colonize the new systems rather then deal with his favoritism BS.
2) It's been a while since that battle, and the descendants of Golarion have grown in strength and technology where they believe they can retake their homeworld... If they knew where it is. The gods in their haste to evacuate from Absalom made a series of blind jumps away and have no Idea where Golarion is. (Think Battlestar Galactica meets Star Trek: Voyager.)
3) The nearby systems have been, or are being colonized... Absalom Station now serves as a hub for trading and adventure. (Star-Trek: Deep Space 9 meets Stargate: Atlantis)
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Cheh. Hardly a mystery. The Prince of Law expanded his influence to enough of the world that he could lay claim to it. Took his new ball and went home, and now everyone can enjoy the rightful rule of Imperial Cheliax with a grand view of the Pit, and knowledge of what awaits them if they don't behave.
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Calling it right now: Eox will be Starfinder's "big villain"
Dominion of the Black say Hi.
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Think about it: Pharasma saw that Rovagug would eventually break free:
Aroden's absence allowed Cayden Cailean, Iomedae, Norgorber to attain godhood. How many more were able to ascend in the time between Pathfinder and Starfinder?
There's a lot that was wrong with this comment, but this bit is the easiest to refute: all three ascended while Aroden was alive and an active god.
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If Absalom Station actually replaced Golarion, the origin of that station would be a major mystery of the setting.
Why? What happened to historians? That really doesn't make sense to me.
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Calling it right now: Eox will be Starfinder's "big villain"Eox shall always win, because their ships need not waste valuable space and resources on such frivolities as "life support" and "crew supplies." :p
We can no longer sit back and allow the intergalactic Jyotiist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious negative energy.
There's a lot that was wrong with this comment, but this bit is the easiest to refute: all three ascended while Aroden was alive and an active god.
Think about it: Pharasma saw that Rovagug would eventually break free:
Aroden's absence allowed Cayden Cailean, Iomedae, Norgorber to attain godhood. How many more were able to ascend in the time between Pathfinder and Starfinder?
How so? Without Aroden, there is no 'god emperor of Men' who's worship would eclipse the other gods. Milani (as well as other ex-Arodenite Saints) also showed how easy it was to become a god (without the Starstone) after his death as well.
Also what of the other wannabe gods coming through/taking the Starstone Trials and succeeding? It has happened 3 times already, why not again? In the time between PF and Starfinder it isn't hard to Imagine more ascending to Godhood.
The Starstone would also be the Power-source of the Station. If you look at the concept art, it looks like Taldor and maybe Cheliax were raised in a bubble of magic, then an entire station was built around it.
I had a wild theory that Aroden has returned to take back his world . Golarion has dissapeared to his new realm. Whether or not that bodes well for humanity is anyones guess.
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Why? What happened to historians? That really doesn't make sense to me.If Absalom Station actually replaced Golarion, the origin of that station would be a major mystery of the setting.
I meant origin as in how and why Absalom Station appeared, not when and where (both of which would presumably be known).
If Golarion disappeared and Absalom Station suddenly appeared in its place at the same time, then the creation of Absalom Station would be a separate mystery somewhat associated with the disappearance of Golarion -- and said creation would require a level of divine intervention that the disappearance of Golarion itself does not require.
That is why I prefer the alternative that mortal humans created Absalom Station without any overt divine help, as that option puts fewer constraints on the event that removed Golarion from its solar system.
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What if the Numinarian (I think that's how you spell it,) peoples came together, realized that the end of the world was coming and the gods were going to have an epic smackdown that would blow Golarion up, and decided to work on a space station in secret. Then, when the End of Golarion came, they launched the Absalom Station in secret, and made they're getaway as Golarion slowly combusted and exploded, sending missiles of rocks the size of football fields soaring past the little spacecraft. After awhile, they expanded on Absalom Station, making adjustments and improvements to their spacecraft. Slowly, the memory of Golarion was forgotten, as seeing a whole planet collapse and hearing the cries of the fallen pleading for mercy was too much for those who survived that fateful day. They never wrote about it, never told anyone, and died with secret locked away, never to be opened again. This time of forgetness was known as the Dark Age, and set the stage for a new era. An era to discover how and why Absalom Station was launched, and who launched it.
What do you think?
It seems that I seriously underestimated the extent of the Gap -- so the origin of Absalom Station actually is a mystery in the Starfinder setting.
I had a wild theory that Aroden has returned to take back his world . Golarion has dissapeared to his new realm. Whether or not that bodes well for humanity is anyones guess.We already know that Aroden died.
From the Pathfinder Wiki:
When the weather broke, the clerics of Aroden found themselves disconnected from their god, and all presume Aroden is dead.
All presume Aroden is dead. When things are going on with deities, it's often hard or even impossible to tell what's actually happening. For all we know, Aroden could still be alive, just unable to grant spells. I'm not sure mortal life and death really apply to deities.
I had a wild theory that Aroden has returned to take back his world . Golarion has dissapeared to his new realm. Whether or not that bodes well for humanity is anyones guess.
We already know that Aroden died.
From the Pathfinder Wiki:
When the weather broke, the clerics of Aroden found themselves disconnected from their god, and all presume Aroden is dead.All presume Aroden is dead. When things are going on with deities, it's often hard or even impossible to tell what's actually happening. For all we know, Aroden could still be alive, just unable to grant spells. I'm not sure mortal life and death really apply to deities.
The actual wiki entry, for the curious.
It's a good theory, Simeon, and excellent job wildly speculating on mysteries (as the title says!), but, unfortunately, not part of Golarion canon.
James has been surprisingly forthright about this. Surprisingly forthcoming about it. A lot.
The Wiki discusses things in-character instead of out.
That said, if you really want to hold it/have fun with it... go for it!
(I post for clarification, and education, not for preventing fun.)
EDIT: Oh, and, uh, I fixed your code-thing in my quote of your post.
(You didn't put the / in your close-quote box, which is why it looks weird. Happens to all of us, believe you me!)
I suppose you're right. Looking at all of James' posts there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that Aroden is dead. Back to the drawing board for wild theories.