I am playing a Half Gnoll Cleric who is scared of camels in general after his groups paladin failed to give the correct command to his camel & it bit me & being in a chariot race being pulled by camels
now we are planning & thinking about going out into the desert with all the typical desert conditions heat & sandstorms of various strengths
as my character is scared of camels which is common in a desert based enviroment/adventure is there a alternative mount that can be used for carrying equipment possibly even riding that is not a camel if so what & how much is it ?
remember it needs to be something suitable for a desert enviroment the heat & sandstorms to be able to cope well with them
Look at the picture of Qadira desert people riding into battle. Do they ride camels? No, they ride horses. Besides, I don't think camels tow caravans.
yes it shows horse running in the desert but how well do they cope in sandstorms and the heat ?
I am assuming they are not ordinary horses or you require feat or skills or something ?
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From Ultimate Equipment, 300gp will get you a riding gecko (400 for a combat trained one), which is a giant gecko with the giant simple template. Their environment is warm forests and mountains, so heat shouldn't be a problem. It's a str 17 large mount and you should only need the typical ride and handle animal skills to control it, just like a horse. It has a light load capacity of 258, medium 519, and max 780.
Their environment is warm forests and mountains, so heat shouldn't be a problem.
However, dry might be an issue.
yeah gecko I think is warm/wet
as you said dry would be a issue no idea how it would deal with sandstorms
my gm said something about lizard and that it might be able bury itself under the sand....someone else said the burying itself thing
we are playing mummy's mask if that helps to mention incase there is something in there I am not aware of
how would they fair in a sandstorm on a scale from 1 to 10 - 10 being the removal of flesh from bone
Historically from our own world some of the greatest horses come for the Arabian regions. An 'Arabian' horse is one of the greatest and most sought after breeds in the world.
Horses and mules, when properly cared for, work perfectly fine in a desert. While camels have many factors which make them better suited to deserts and low water conditions, equids are still perfectly fine mounts in those regions as well.
That said maybe a Giant hyena would work for you? Or a desert warg?
Just out of curiosity, what is the non gnoll half of your half gnoll?
Human
I need to also know if geckos or any other suggest mount requires exotic saddles to ride the description goes on to mention
GECKO, RIDING
Common Weight: 1,200 lbs. Price: 300 gp
Combat trained Weight: 1,500 lbs. Price: 400 gp
Larger than even giant geckos, these mammoth lizards have been specifically bred to be used as mounts. Prized for their ability to run along cave ceilings and sheer walls, they require exotic saddles to ride. A riding gecko has the same statistics as a giant gecko with the giant template.
I am confused because it says Gecko, Riding and not large or Giant gecko riding
and also how well they cope in sandstorms no one has commented on the sandstorm part yet for any of the suggested mounts
Reskin the gecko as a horned lizard.
1 - how do they cope in sandstorms on a scale from 1 to 10 - 10 being the removal of flesh from bone heat might not be a issue but I need to know about sandstorms
2 - do I need a exotic saddle
1 - how do they cope in sandstorms on a scale from 1 to 10 - 10 being the removal of flesh from bone heat might not be a issue but I need to know about sandstorms
2 - do I need a exotic saddle
1 - The answer to this is how does your GM run Sandstorms? All animals that can survive in a desert can survive sandstorms with the proper preparations. Those with a natural armor bonus would probably have a better time resisting the abrading sand part of the storm than those who do not but that is not necessarily reflected in the rules on sandstorms themselves:
A sandstorm reduces visibility to 1d10 × 5 feet and provides a –4 penalty on Perception checks. A sandstorm deals 1d3 points of nonlethal damage per hour to any creatures caught in the open, and leaves a thin coating of sand in its wake. Driving sand creeps in through all but the most secure seals and seams, chafing skin and contaminating carried gear.
So according to these rules, sandstorms are not very lethal affairs so most animals should survive just fine. Since the rules do not delineate any 1-10 rating that will have to be taken up with your table GM if he is using such rules.
2- If it is not a standard pony or horse of medium or large size, respectively, odds are you need an exotic saddle.
1d6 point on lethal damage and 1d3 points fire damage per hour of exposure (khamaseen storm)
normal sandstorm 1d3 non lethal per hour
also on a side note/unrelated question what is a good small relativly inexpensive container that can be sealed to be protected from sand ?
Look at the picture of Qadira desert people riding into battle. Do they ride camels? No, they ride horses. Besides, I don't think camels tow caravans.
Horses however require that you carry water for them, they don't have internal water storage the way camels do, so desert dwellers that use them, typically operate a relatively short distance from an oasis they use as a raiding base.
any ideas on a sealed container that will be protected from sand so i can store food in it and not worry about it ?
If you're just a bit higher level than level such that you can afford a wand, purchase a wand of Endure Elements and ignore the heat of the desert. Secondly, make sure you have someone that can create water (virtually any divine caster). Lastly, make sure you carry enough food with you for however long you expect to be in the desert.
If you do these three things it wont matter what kind of mount you select, you'll both be perfectly fine traveling through the desert.
As for the occasionally fire damage thing....yeah neither you or your mount will have any mechanical way of coping with that aside from magic.
But, I will not that fire damage shouldn't always apply, only during the special sandstorm and you should be able to take some sort of refuge from the storm if it hits. Rope trick would work well, and can also be had in a wand.
any ideas on a sealed container that will be protected from sand so i can store food in it and not worry about it ?
Waterproof bags. They can be sealed up.
Look at the picture of Qadira desert people riding into battle. Do they ride camels? No, they ride horses. Besides, I don't think camels tow caravans.Horses however require that you carry water for them, they don't have internal water storage the way camels do, so desert dwellers that use them, typically operate a relatively short distance from an oasis they use as a raiding base.
Then provide a suggestion of a desert riding beast that provides its own water supply that isn't a camel. I was simply suggesting the one animal that was used most by Golarion's Desert people
Here is another: (still need to provide water) what about riding dinos. (I don't know the names) I would expect that they would be good in desert heat because they are lizard/dino and as far as sand storms, they should have 3rd eyelids like a bird.
Look at the picture of Qadira desert people riding into battle. Do they ride camels? No, they ride horses. Besides, I don't think camels tow caravans.Horses however require that you carry water for them, they don't have internal water storage the way camels do, so desert dwellers that use them, typically operate a relatively short distance from an oasis they use as a raiding base.Then provide a suggestion of a desert riding beast that provides its own water supply that isn't a camel. I was simply suggesting the one animal that was used most by Golarion's Desert people
Here is another: (still need to provide water) what about riding dinos. (I don't know the names) I would expect that they would be good in desert heat because they are lizard/dino and as far as sand storms, they should have 3rd eyelids like a bird.
Or the A Team can try the usual B.A.Barrakus approach to planes.
Depending on your party level...
1) Phantom Steed chain of spells.
2) Animate Dead, any riding animal.
3) Animated Constructs anything...