Can you take extra Channel more than once?


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Playing cleric in Kingmaker.

7 channels per day, lol, kinda need it.

Can I get more.

Liberty's Edge

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No. You can take a feat more than once only if the feat description specifically says you can do so.


Theconiel wrote:
No. You can take a feat more than once only if the feat description specifically says you can do so.

Theconiel is correct.

When you asked this question, I was surprised and thought the answer was obvious, but then I thought to look it up.

I was trying to look it up on the d20pfsrd website and then in the actual Core book, and even the PRD - none of them allow you to take it multiple times. I must say, I'm really surprised - that's the only "extra" feat that doesn't permit you to take it multiple times. I suspect it's a typo or editing oversight, but RAW, for now, it is not allowed.

Liberty's Edge

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To be fair, it doesn't say you can't take a feat more than once. What it says is that unless the feat says so, the effects from a feat does not stack, so if you take it twice, you only get the effects once. So you can take it, but it's useless to do so. So the only feats where it makes sense are the feats where you can select different options, like weapon focus or skill focus. Though most of these feats will also mention you can take them more than once.

Grand Lodge

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Deighton Thrane wrote:
To be fair, it doesn't say you can't take a feat more than once. What it says is that unless the feat says so, the effects from a feat does not stack, so if you take it twice, you only get the effects once. So you can take it, but it's useless to do so. So the only feats where it makes sense are the feats where you can select different options, like weapon focus or skill focus. Though most of these feats will also mention you can take them more than once.

Actually, most of the Extra X feats all say you can take them more than once, and that their effects stack. Extra Channel is the only one of them without the special text, and this question/observation has been raised in the past. I remember starting a threat about it, several years ago.

The Concordance

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Extra Mental Focus also lacks the wording to allow taking it more than once.

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Extra Turning from 3.5 allowed multiple times, so my guess is it's intentional to limit it to once.


A lot of the 'extra' feats that allow you to take them more than once affect abilities who's uses per day increase with level. Channel does not. I feel this is a big part of why you can't take it's extra feat more than once. Despite it not being an overly powerful ability it is meant that you can only use it a few times per day regardless of level, unlike say an arcane pool who's uses per day and functions increase with time. This is of course just speculation, but there are no extra school power feats as far as I'm aware...


ShieldLawrence wrote:
Extra Mental Focus also lacks the wording to allow taking it more than once.

Weird. I wonder if it's balance concerns or space concerns?

EDIT: That's what I get for having a post ready to go, and being forced to wait until the next day (as I was unable to post for a night for some reason). Ninjas! Ninjas everywhere! ... or maybe just two of them! :D

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