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Grey,

It MIGHT happen but I think that what's more likely is that Green and Yellow will police while Hal goes on to find the remaining other spectrum(s) to get them to help run the galaxy.

Or something.


Greylurker wrote:

Got a couple of nice entries into the story this week.

Trinity - Lois invites Batman and Wonder Woman over for dinner.

Lois is taking the initiative here. If her husband is going back into action she wants to "know the people who have his back". Diana is fairly accepting of it all (and brings a Wild Boar for dinner). She wants Lois to know she dosen't feel about Clark the way she felt about her Clark and she wants to be Lois's friend.

Bruce on the other hand makes it very clear that "You are not my Superman, I liked my Superman, I understood my Superman, We came from a similar understanding with each other. I don't know you"

And Clark has a wonderful story about Batman in a rainbow colored costume, that Bruce did not find at all funny.

There is a bit of an awkwardness in the air here. These three know each other and at the same time they don't. Batman and Wonder Woman are faced with a stranger who looks like the hero they know but dosen't really act like him. And Superman has all these memories of his Batman and Wonder Woman that don't match up with the people he is now dealing with

Then we have Superman #7 which is a nice little interlude piece of the "Smiths" going to the county fair together as a family.
Watching him balance family time and the knowledge of an impending robbery at the ticket stand wasa good feeling. In someways it's like the sort of thing they used to do in the Silver age only with out the arrogant wink at the reader thing I used to hate. I like this Superman. He's not the Bryne, Man of Steel I used to enjoy after Crisis but neither is he the arrogant silver age showoff I hated. Superman as Dad just feels so right to me.

What is the rainbow-bat-man thing a reference to? Or was it invented for this issue and not something from an actual pre-flashpoint comic?


Ben,

It was an actual thing. I'm pretty sure it was in Detective Comics but I forget which volume and/or number.

Edit: FOUND IT! Issue number 251.


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137ben wrote:


What is the rainbow-bat-man thing a reference to? Or was it invented for this issue and not something from an actual pre-flashpoint comic?

Actual thing from one issue of Detective in the late '50s. That story got [b]a nod and a wink in the Brave and the Bold cartoon as well.


Those old comics were even cheesier at times. They could get rather nightmare mode as well. I remember one where Superman had died and wanted to donate his organs to Batman so Batman could be superpowered as well. Luther stole them and sold most(except for the heart) off to the highest bidders.


Manny,

You're forgetting about Red Superman And Blue Superman.

Cause now it's kind of a thing.

Dark Archive

They totally need a 'spectrum' of Flashes, too. Why just a Speed/Velocity Force, why not the other properties of an object, like a Mass Force and a Location Force?


Set,

They sort of had that but they were creations made by Zoom. I think.


Just read that Godspeed is one of the speedsters coming to Flash (TV show) this season. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he'll be revealed as Tom Felton's CCPD character.


Damon,

No way! They just PUT him in the freaking comics! Godspeed doesn't seem likely. Now the Rival, yes.


From the Sept 26 - Oct 2 issue of TV Guide, p.33:

"...when Earth-2's Harrison Wells and daughter Jessie will reappear [is hush-hush], but with DC Comics baddies Mirror Master, Godspeed, Savitar and Dr. Alchemy all lined up to cause trouble this season..."


I think Felton's character will wind up being Dr. Alchemy rather than Godspeed. I am curious to see though if Dr. Alchemy's pursuits wind up creating Godspeed.


Damon,

Really? Not sure I trust TV Guide though.

I do agree with Dal that it's possible that Felton COULD be Doctor Alchemy.

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Anyone read The Titans yet?

Spoiler:
Abrakadabra opens his pocket watch and there is blood on it like the beginning of the clock from Watchmen.


Charles,

Not sure that's 100% relevant so much as he suspects someone (possible Time Trapper!) of altering events and time.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Charles,

Not sure that's 100% relevant so much as he suspects someone (possible Time Trapper!) of altering events and time.

The badness being instigated by the Time Trapper doesn't rule out anyone else (like Dr. Manhattan) being responsible, since the one consistent thing about the Time Trapper is that it's always someone new under that hood...


Set,

You raise an excellent point. It could be that Doc Manhattan is being used some how by the Time Trapper OR as you suggested, Time Trapper just decided to take that form.

I find the latter on a little harder to believe unless he's taken over Ozzy. But we'll see.

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Right now collecting Nightwing and Titans. Tradewaiting Superman.

As others have mentioned, I too like Superdad.


Any word on legion of superheroes?


Freehold,

Nothing that I've heard no.

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Here is the schedule for the rest of the year.
NO LEGION

October 5th::

Aquaman #8
Batman #8 (Night of the Monster Men Part 4)
Cyborg #2
Deadman: Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love #1 (of 3)
Death of Hawkman #1 (of 6)
Green Arrow #8
Green Lanterns #8
Harley Quinn #5
Justice League #6
Midnighter and Apollo #1 (of 6)
Nightwing #6 (Night of the Monster Men Part 5)
Shade the Changing Girl #1 (Young Animal)
Superman #8

October 12th::

Action Comics #965
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #3
Deathstroke #4
Detective Comics #942 (Night of the Monster Men Part 6 - Conclusion)
Doom Patrol #2 (Young Animal)
Gotham Academy: Second Semester #2
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #6
New Super-Man #4
Red Hood and the Outlaws #3
Suicide Squad #4
Supergirl #2
Superwoman #3
The Flash #8
Wonder Woman #8

October 19th::

All-Star Batman #3
Aquaman #9
Batman #9
Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye #1 (Young Animal)
Cyborg #3
Green Arrow #9
Green Lanterns #9
Harley Quinn #6
Justice League #7
Nightwing #7
Raven #2 (of 6) [takes place between TT #24 and TT: Rebirth #1]
Superman #9
Trinity #2

October 26th::

Action Comics #966
Batgirl #4
Batman Beyond #1
Blue Beetle #2
Deathstroke #5
Detective Comics #943
Hal Jordan and the Green Lanterns Corps #7
Hellblazer #3
Sixpack and Dogwelder: Hard-Travelin' Heroz #3
Suicide Squad #5
Teen Titans #1
The Flash #9
Titans #4
Vigilante: Southland #1 (of 6)
Wonder Woman #9
Special Mention: Wonder Woman 75th Anniversary Special

November 2nd::

Aquaman #10
Batman #10
Cyborg #4
Death of Hawkman #2 (of 6)
Doom Patrol #3 (Young Animal)
Green Arrow #10
Green Lanterns #10
Harley Quinn #7
Justice League #8
Midnighter Apollo #2 (of 6)
Nightwing #8
Shade the Changing Girl #2 (Young Animal)
Superman #10

November 9th::

Action Comics #957
All-Star Batman #4
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #4
Deathstroke #6
Detective Comics #944
Gotham Academy: Second Semester #3
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #8
Mother Panic #1 (Young Animal)
New Super-Man #5
Red Hood and the Outlaws #4
Suicide Squad #6
Supergirl #3
Superwoman #4
Teen Titans #2
The Flash #10

November 16th::

Aquaman #11
Batman #11
Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye #2 (Young Animal)
Cyborg #5
Green Arrow #11
Green Lanterns #11
Harley Quinn #8
Justice League #9
Nightwing #9
Raven #3 (of 6) [takes place between TT #24 and TT: Rebirth #1]
Superman #11
Trinity #3

November 23rd::

Action Comics #968
Batgirl #5
Batman Beyond #2
Blue Beetle #3
Deathstroke #7
Detective Comics #945
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #9
Sixpack and Dogwelder: Hard-Travelin' Heroz #4
Suicide Squad #7
Super Powers #1 (of 6)
The Flash #11
The Hellblazer #4
Titans #5
Vigilante: Southland #2 (of 6)
Wonder Woman #11

November 30th::

Batman Annual #1
New Talent Showcase #1 (DC Talent Development Workshop Graduates)
Superman Annual #1
Special Mention: Direct Currents #1 (Free DC Magazine - Info on Rebirth's Second Wave)

December 7th::

Aquaman #12
Batman #12
Cyborg #6
Deadman: Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love #2 (of 3)
Death of Hawkman #3 (of 6)
Green Arrow #12
Green Lanterns #12
Harley Quinn #9
Justice League #10
Midnighter and Apollo #3 (of 6)
Nightwing #10
Shade the Changing Girl #3 (Young Animal)
Superman #12

December 14th::

Aquaman #13
Action Comics #969
All-Star Batman #5
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey #5
DC Rebirth Holiday Special #1
Deathstroke #8
Detective Comics #946
Doom Patrol #4 (Young Animal)
Gotham Academy: Second Semester #4
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #10
New Super-Man #6
Red Hood and the Outlaws #5
Suicide Squad #8 (Killer Frost backup ties into Justice League VS Suicide Squad)
Supergirl #4
Superwoman #5
The Flash #12
Wonder Woman #12

December 21st::

Batman #13
Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye #3 (Young Animal)
Cyborg #7
Green Arrow #13
Green Lanterns #13
Harley Quinn #10
Justice League #11
Justice League VS Suicide Squad #1 (of 6)
Nightwing #11
Raven #4 (of 6) [takes place between TT #24 and TT: Rebirth #1]
Superman #13
Trinity #4

December 28th::

Action Comics #970
Batgirl #6
Batman Beyond #3
Blue Beetle #4
Deathstroke #9
Detective Comics #947
Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps #11
Justice League VS Suicide Squad #2 (of 6)
Mother Panic #2 (Young Animal)
Sixpack and Dogwelder: Hard Travelin' Heroz #5
Super Powers #2 (of 6)
Teen Titans #3
The Flash #13
The Hellblazer #5
Titans #6
Vigilante: Southland #3 (of 6)
Wonder Woman #13
Special Mention: Supergirl: Being Super #1 (Like Superman: American Alien, but Supergirl)


Nothing for freehold, then.

I need to give the new lanterns a try, however.


Free,

It's surprising better than you might expect since you have Jessica Cruz and Simon Baz (both very raw and new recruits) trying to work together while saving the planet from the Red Lanterns and probably soon a Phantom Lantern. (I kid you not.)

Also apparently Simon can now cure people with the Red Lantern affliction.

You cause before you took off the ring, they died...


From what I understand about the Phantom Ring. It's basically like a GL ring only anyone can use it. As a result the Dominators seem to want it.

you know for...saving kitties in trees I'm sure.


Right. Saving Kitties so their Sun eater can have them as pets while it devours other Stars...


THE MAIN MAN IS BACK!!!

Good Bye NuBo


Link, Grey?

I also am glad we're getting the real Lobo back.


Cover of Harley issue #6

plus article with more art


ReaLobo?
WOOT!

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I like Lobo when he first appeared as a villain in the original Omega Men.
He was a bad ass assassin/bounty hunter that cared not for you.
They then combined him and Wolverine to make the Lobo that is here today.


Greylurker wrote:

THE MAIN MAN IS BACK!!!

Good Bye NuBo

they're bringing the wrestler back?


Charles Scholz wrote:

I like Lobo when he first appeared as a villain in the original Omega Men.

He was a bad ass assassin/bounty hunter that cared not for you.
They then combined him and Wolverine to make the Lobo that is here today.

Wow is it ever good that Lobo dropped those leotards.

And I wonder if we'll ever get an explanation for why the 'real' Last Czarnian has returned?


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Eric,

Donuts maybe?


Freehold DM wrote:
Greylurker wrote:

THE MAIN MAN IS BACK!!!

Good Bye NuBo

they're bringing the wrestler back?

Maybe, Animated Lobo always did sound a lot like him


Animated Lobo was voiced by Brad Garrett.


I didn't get into the new Lobo over much, but I was glad he wasn't a 90s wrestler.


Maybe in 2020, Free.

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Well, that didn't take very long. Just a few months in to collecting some Batbooks again and I'm ready to cancel both Detective and Nightwing.

I never did like the multi-title cross-overs all that much, but they're even worse when you don't collect all the titles. And I don't really want to waste money collecting one or two issues of series I don't normally get, just so the stories in the books I did want can make sense.

Then there's the characters I've never seen before. Who the hell is this lame ass Superwoman wannabe called Gotham Girl? The kid in the cave with Alfred I'm guessing is from that We Are Robin book.

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Freehold DM wrote:
I didn't get into the new Lobo over much, but I was glad he wasn't a 90s wrestler.

My favorite Lobo was the one that showed up in the Giffen Justice League and L.E.G.I.O.N. comics. I liked his initial miniseries they did shortly afterwards, although that was the beginning of his "90's Wrestler" as you call it. This newest one looked too much to me like a reject from a Ziggy Stardust concert, so I never got into it.


Aber,

The kid in the cave is Duke Thomas, the kid that found out Bruce was Batman from Year Zero. He was in the We are Robin, yes, but he's kind of upgraded himself into a secondary assistant for Batman instead of a Robin.

Gotham Girl is from the first issues of Batman Rebirth. As for the inter-title thing, this is just for a one time series thing dealing with Hugo Strange and his apparent obsession with monsters. That plus Psycho-Pirate play a role too.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Aber,

The kid in the cave is Duke Thomas, the kid that found out Bruce was Batman from Year Zero. He was in the We are Robin, yes, but he's kind of upgraded himself into a secondary assistant for Batman instead of a Robin.

Gotham Girl is from the first issues of Batman Rebirth. As for the inter-title thing, this is just for a one time series thing dealing with Hugo Strange and his apparent obsession with monsters. That plus Psycho-Pirate play a role too.

The crossover makes sense in the build up for I am suicide.

I've enjoyed Nightwing Tec and Titans.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:
As for the inter-title thing, this is just for a one time series thing dealing with Hugo Strange and his apparent obsession with monsters. That plus Psycho-Pirate play a role too.

More like the inter-title thing has become a regular staple of the Batbooks. No-Man's Land, Contagion, Death of a Family....

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They just finished their first story arc, then went directly to a crossover.
Not a very auspicious beginning.


Charles,

I think it was a build up because apparently Batman goes to fight Bane in Bane's home turf via Suicide Squad.

Matthew,

Nightwing hasn't really jived for me but then again I'm used to Dick being old school Nightwing in Bludhaven.

Teen Titans has a ways to go but it's starting off pretty decent.

Aber,

Death of a Family was some time ago. This is just after the whole Jim Gordon in the Batsuit/Rabbit Batman exo-skeleton.


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Aber,

The kid in the cave is Duke Thomas, the kid that found out Bruce was Batman from Year Zero. He was in the We are Robin, yes, but he's kind of upgraded himself into a secondary assistant for Batman instead of a Robin.

Gotham Girl is from the first issues of Batman Rebirth. As for the inter-title thing, this is just for a one time series thing dealing with Hugo Strange and his apparent obsession with monsters. That plus Psycho-Pirate play a role too.

More than a few we are robin fans at comic con. There was a large group of we are robin cosplayers who had a we are Robin flag that was signed by the creator of the comic. Didn't know this was so popular but I am so happy to see it represented.

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just to add... I think Night of the Monster Men is 'writing to the trades' The three books had their 6 issue runs (about the size of a TPB) and this crossover takes 6 issues. So in addition to setting up "I am Suicide" it also is a self contained story, of the whole Bat Team (minus Barbara, but that's ok in this case)

I am holding out hope DC holds to its 'two year plan' with these books.

Gotham girl tangent:

I find the, intentional or not, parallels to Grant Wilson interesting. Both were motivated by family (Grant idealizing Deathstroke, Clair and her brother by the deaths of their parents and Batman's appearance) both made deals for powers that would/will eventually kill them, and both being motivated to prove themselves to their idols. I find myself worrying about Claire, primarily because of 'comic book death'. She's more likely to die and stay dead than Bruce, Dick, Babs, even Alfred and Jim Gordon. In the short time we've seen her I've grown attached, and really hope Bruce can save her, not just from the Psycho Pirate's manipulations but from her own powers.

Just like Ahsoka, Rex, Fives and the characters from Clone Wars you don't see in Revenge of the Sith, Clair's fate is more compelling. Will she live? Will she die? Will she stabilize as 'supergirl lite' or will she be powered down? I'd love to see her take up the Red Robin mantle, since Tim is <redacted>.

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I hope Gotham Girl stays on. I hope they find a way for her to keep her powers at a reduced level so it isn't killing her.

Of course, if that happened then everyone in the DC Earth would start wanting super powers. Could Batman live with that???
No. He would shut it down immediately.


I agree with Charles. I think if people found out about ways to make themselves on or just below par of what Superman can do, it's basically bringing out a Super Hero arms race that Batman wouldn't want to deal with. See - Kingdom Come.

Also Tim isn't dead. He's just stuck right now between plot holes.

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

I agree with Charles. I think if people found out about ways to make themselves on or just below par of what Superman can do, it's basically bringing out a Super Hero arms race that Batman wouldn't want to deal with. See - Kingdom Come.

Also Tim isn't dead. He's just stuck right now between plot holes.

Yeah I was just keeping his status redacted. It is an interesting concept though, if she becomes Red Robin and Tim comes back, having two red robins like two flashes or all the green lanterns.

Tim will be back. I'm hoping the two year plan pans out.


I'm trying to figure out how Kadabra over in Titans fits into everything.

Now he is claiming to be the reason Wally was shoved out of time and forgotten but looking at the story with the perspective of a Reader that doesn't feel right. Plus the not so subtle "oh my nose dropped a bit of blood on my watch would you just look at that" kind of reinforces that feeling.

Someone is trying to clean up a mess ad is using Kadabra to do it.

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