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| Bill Dunn |
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I've actually gotten angry with cancer. I know it's stupid, but it has taken so many good people in a space of 7-8 months.
I lost 3 classmates in 2015 to cancer (2 brain, 1 bile duct). Granted, I graduated 25 years ago, but it's still a bit of a hammering since we're only in our 40s. Then a good friend of mine got diagnosed with it and now has to try to live without the esophagus he was born with. So I'm right with you on being pissed off at cancer for savaging people I know close to home as well as people I've been a fan of and respected.
| Cole Deschain |
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Hama wrote:I've actually gotten angry with cancer. I know it's stupid, but it has taken so many good people in a space of 7-8 months.I lost 3 classmates in 2015 to cancer (2 brain, 1 bile duct). Granted, I graduated 25 years ago, but it's still a bit of a hammering since we're only in our 40s. Then a good friend of mine got diagnosed with it and now has to try to live without the esophagus he was born with. So I'm right with you on being pissed off at cancer for savaging people I know close to home as well as people I've been a fan of and respected.
Cancer doesn't run in my family- it gallops.
Lost a grandfather, an uncle, two second cousins.
Had my mother, my maternal grandmother, and an aunt get it and survive thus far.
My feelings on the subject of cancer would, given their full expression, violate several forum rules.
| Drejk |
Very sad. He was a great actor.
On the other hand, that's two 69 year old British celebrities dying of cancer they kept quiet about in just a few days. Hopefully no one else meets that criteria....
Lemmy was older but still British and had cancer. He didn't keep quite about because, from what we were told, he learned about it himself about two days before dying...
Bruce Dickinson is British but he's younger and got better last year. He did tell the fans that he is sick, though... Coincidence?
Aberzombie
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Aberzombie wrote:Very sad. He was a great actor.
On the other hand, that's two 69 year old British celebrities dying of cancer they kept quiet about in just a few days. Hopefully no one else meets that criteria....
Lemmy was older but still British and had cancer. He didn't keep quite about because, from what we were told, he learned about it himself about two days before dying...
Bruce Dickinson is British but he's younger and got better last year. He did tell the fans that he is sick, though... Coincidence?
DUN!
DUN!DUUUUNNNN!
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Aberzombie wrote:On the other hand, that's two 69 year old British celebrities dying of cancer they kept quiet about in just a few days. Hopefully no one else meets that criteria....Double the security on Tim Curry. I don't want anything to get through.
Come to think of it, create a secure perimeter around Bob Geldof and Sting as well.
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It's also possible that cancer is as common now as it has always been, but the increase in global population and general improvement in healthcare and quality of life means that it's relative impact in cause of death is greater now despite occurring at the same relative frequency.
Cancer sucks, but trying to blame any one factor without evidence isn't helping the issue.
| Bill Dunn |
It's also possible that cancer is as common now as it has always been, but the increase in global population and general improvement in healthcare and quality of life means that it's relative impact in cause of death is greater now despite occurring at the same relative frequency.
The guys behind Freakonomics, Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner, had a chapter on this in one of their books, if I recall correctly. Their analysis suggested that there are lots of ways in which we are extending our lifespans against all sorts of maladies - ensuring that we are living long enough to die of cancer... whereas a larger proportion of us would have been dying of something else before we had managed to develop cancer.
| TarSpartan |
Very sad. He was a great actor.
On the other hand, that's two 69 year old British celebrities dying of cancer they kept quiet about in just a few days. Hopefully no one else meets that criteria....
I had the same thought. David Gilmour (guitarist/singer for Pink Floyd) is 69 until March. Brian May (Queen guitarist, astronomer, animal rights activist, and inventor) and Elton John (no explanation needed) both turn 69 this year.
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Aberzombie wrote:I had the same thought. David Gilmour (guitarist/singer for Pink Floyd) is 69 until March. Brian May (Queen guitarist, astronomer, animal rights activist, and inventor) and Elton John (no explanation needed) both turn 69 this year.Very sad. He was a great actor.
On the other hand, that's two 69 year old British celebrities dying of cancer they kept quiet about in just a few days. Hopefully no one else meets that criteria....
Lemmy of Motorhead died in December just days after hitting 70 from "an extremely aggressive cancer." The septogenarian milestone looks to be a problem for our favorite brit celebs from the 70s and 80s.
| Artemis Moonstar |
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.... Okay, this one actually made made cry. I usually don't get so worked up over celeb deaths, but Alan?... I don't think I've been this upset since George Carlin went to go kick God in the nuts.
I agree with whoever wanted to put security around Tim Curry... I'd also post a few more men around Jeremy Irons. He's got 2 years till he hits 69, but if either of those two go, I will officially have to blow up the universe.
| Sissyl |
The lead cause of death in Western countries is cardiovascular disease. Traditionally, this meant half dying of heart attacks. Half of the rest were cancer. The biggest ones were breast, prostate and lung cancer.
These last two decades saw advances in cardiovascular disease outpace cancer research. Applied science saw the CV deaths go down more than cancer deaths. So, yes, more of us die from cancer, simply because we were protected from dying from other causes. See... People have this tendency not to live forever, whatever you do. The mortality rate is still unmoved at 100%.
However, one aspect of this bears noting. Average age at death is going up. We survive our fifties and sixties and live to seventy far more often today. This is the culling, depending on genetic and environmental factors. If you get to seventy, you can have another twenty five years today, just like the romans had some people reach sixty, and after that often getting quite a bit older.
Alan: Thank you. You were a great actor and humourist. We are poorer for your passing.
| Stebehil |
What others have said already - dying at ~70 from cancer is a trend I decidedly dislike these days. If someone the age of Christopher Lee has to go, that is to be expected at 90+. But 70? Thats way too early in this day and age.
Alan Rickman will be missed. I have to add Quigley down under from his filmography - I liked that one.
(Personal note: What has me in tears with every cancer death these days is the sad fact that my father is slowly losing his battle against that fiend. He is nearly 81, and thus lived to quite an old age, but still... To know that he will most probably not see his 82nd birthday is just some knowledge I could live without.)
| Mark Hoover |
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I read the Deathly Hollows, and I cried when Snape's fate was revealed, his life explained. I didn't cry because Rowling is an incredible author, though she is. I cried because I imagined Alan Rickman playing Snape.
Then I saw the movie. I am not ashamed to say I let the tears flow again even though my kids were sitting right there with me. He was THAT good.
The first time I ever saw Mr Rickman on screen was when my brother rented Die Hard. "Hey, it's got that guy from Moonlighting and Blind Date in it!" Then Hans Gruber appeared on screen. We were fans of quoting lines but the only ones we ever used from Die Hard were from the villain.
Next I watched Robin Hood. EVERY one of my friends made fun of me. Despite their cajoling, I saw it TWICE in the theater.
I didn't see Alan Rickman again until Dogma. One of my favorite scenes in ANY biblical film is Rickman talking about telling Jesus he's the son of god. "...I had to tell this little boy that he was God's only son and that it meant a life of persecution and crucifixion at the hands of the very people he came to enlighten and redeem. He begged me to 'take it all back'... and if I'd had the power I would have."
My eyes are misty just typing this.
So F U cancer! I know it's stupid, and childish, but I'm saying it anyway. You took my 20 year old brother, three of my grandparents, 2 of my aunts, crippled my uncle, stole a brother-in-law and have claimed or damaged a dozen other people in my life.
I F-ing HATE cancer. I'm so sick and tired of this stupid disease. I give to foundations every year, run 5ks, and talk with folks about the disease so I feel like I'm doing what I can. I'M DOING MY PART UNIVERSE! Time for you to start picking up the slack!
... I'm sorry, this just sucks.
Alan Rickman was a great actor. He could make even a role like Metatron in a silly, comic book version of religion, grab your attention. I bet he was an amazing human being to know in real life. I hope he is at peace, and in a place where he is loved for all time.
| Chief Cook and Bottlewasher |
The lead cause of death in Western countries is cardiovascular disease. Traditionally, this meant half dying of heart attacks. Half of the rest were cancer. The biggest ones were breast, prostate and lung cancer.
These last two decades saw advances in cardiovascular disease outpace cancer research. Applied science saw the CV deaths go down more than cancer deaths. So, yes, more of us die from cancer, simply because we were protected from dying from other causes. See... People have this tendency not to live forever, whatever you do. The mortality rate is still unmoved at 100%.
However, one aspect of this bears noting. Average age at death is going up. We survive our fifties and sixties and live to seventy far more often today. This is the culling, depending on genetic and environmental factors. If you get to seventy, you can have another twenty five years today, just like the romans had some people reach sixty, and after that often getting quite a bit older.
Alan: Thank you. You were a great actor and humourist. We are poorer for your passing.
You think Mick Jagger, Keith Richards (both 72) and Paul Mccartney (73) are safe for a few years then? I hope you're right.