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Hopefully it strengthens the hobby by creating more freelancers with merit.
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With specific reference to the options that come under the DMGuild as opposed to the OGL
- there are distinct advantages for creators who make quality stuff based (currently, only) in the Forgotten Realms - like being considered to create further stuff for WotC. Or have their content included in future digital releases, of whatever format.
As I have mentioned elsewhere, hopefully they open up more of their interesting, non color by numbers Campaign Settings.
I doubt it as the 5e SRD appears intentionally incomplete. It seems to me to be more of a tool for potential 3rd party publishers to use to benchmark content. Since Paizo is basically in direct competition with Hasbro in this area I believe they will simply continue with their current successful business model, with at most an eye to insure they cover any thematic veins that Hasbro may uncover as popular.
Also flagged the initial post as being in the wrong forum - this should go in DnD 4th and Beyond, or General Discussion...
EDIT - and there are at least two threads on this topic already in Dnd and Beyond...
A conversion from the current Pathfinder rules to 5e is unreasonably difficult. I don't expect any changes here.
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Signs point to doubtful. It would be a mine field to try and cross over all the rules. But that's just my opinion.Do you think it changes the direction of Pathfinder since it was originally based of the d20 era SRD?
Judging from what I know of it's earliest products til now, it is my opinion that they are trying to design rules that fit their game world. I don't think that anything exists in a bubble, but i can draw a clear line through what I've seen and can see where things have sprung from since day one of Pathfinder.
Converting data would take so long. 5e is extremely simple, boring game. At higher levels, almost every class goes unconscious every combat. 110 hp? 3 hits from a purple worm and you're done. I really do not like every class being a squishy.
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Do you think it changes the direction of Pathfinder since it was originally based of the d20 era SRD?
Not even slightly. Paizo will keep monitoring what other companies do, while continuing to do what works for them. 5E getting an OGL is unlikely to make Paizo's business plan unfeasible.
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How many people have said "Well I like 5e's mechanics better, but it's not open rules so I'll go play Pathfinder even though I don't like its mechanics as much"? Basically none? Yeah, I thought so.
It'll definitely affect 3PP support, some companies might never publish another PfRPG release ever again after already-in-the-pipeline releases come out in 2016, but there won't be any direct, short-term effects on Paizo.
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I'm a fan of Pathfinder, and have a lot invested in the game, but I wonder if Paizo is considering working with the 5e OGL. Perhaps a conversion document? I wanted to get other player's opinion on the matter.
It's solidly in the "not going to happen category". Paizo has it's hands full supporting it's own system. It's not going to split its efforts into something that will do nothing but cannibalise it's own sales.
If people running 5e by Pathfinder settings material to convert, it's still a win for paizo, withut any effort.
It's simply smarter buisness sense to simply keep Pathfinder an appealing system to run.
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Just for a little technical clarity here... Wizards released their SRD 5.0 using version 1.0a of the Open Game License, which has been around for 15 years and is the exact version of the OGL that we've been using all along. Which means if our designers see anything in SRD 5.0 that they think would be a good addition to our game, they can put it in. (I'm not saying they will—I'm just saying they could... and assuming Wizards is going to put the OGL into their future 5.0 products, it's just as easy for Wizards to use any Open Game Content we've created.)
That said, I don't expect any major changes to come out of this for us. Our focus is the Pathfinder RPG, and we don't currently plan to create content for 5E.
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I personally would love to see 5th ed conversion documents or alternative prints of APs I personally would buy a RotRl product in 5th ed despite owning the pathfinder version. For exactly the reason already given - converting is a lot of work.
Just for a little technical clarity here... Wizards released their SRD 5.0 using version 1.0a of the Open Game License, which has been around for 15 years and is the exact version of the OGL that we've been using all along. Which means if our designers see anything in SRD 5.0 that they think would be a good addition to our game, they can put it in. (I'm not saying they will—I'm just saying they could... and assuming Wizards is going to put the OGL into their future 5.0 products, it's just as easy for Wizards to use any Open Game Content we've created.)
That said, I don't expect any major changes to come out of this for us. Our focus is the Pathfinder RPG, and we don't currently plan to create content for 5E.
Hi Vic.
Can you offer any thoughts on the Community Use Policy? As in, is there any issue with us creating a bunch of 5E material for use with Golarion(domains for the Golarion deities, backgrounds tied to the various Golarion nations, etcetera)?
I'm asking more how comfortable Paizo would be with that, rather than what the legal issues would be.
Cheers.
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Just for a little technical clarity here... Wizards released their SRD 5.0 using version 1.0a of the Open Game License, which has been around for 15 years and is the exact version of the OGL that we've been using all along. Which means if our designers see anything in SRD 5.0 that they think would be a good addition to our game, they can put it in. (I'm not saying they will—I'm just saying they could... and assuming Wizards is going to put the OGL into their future 5.0 products, it's just as easy for Wizards to use any Open Game Content we've created.)
That said, I don't expect any major changes to come out of this for us. Our focus is the Pathfinder RPG, and we don't currently plan to create content for 5E.
Thanks for the reply and clarification!
I've already done a little movement between PF and 5e, trying out various homerules to work the two systems together, previously...as I'm certain others have (and most who probably like 5e FAAAAR more than I do).
None of it's official of course, but there are things out there already from people who have used PF in 5e and 5e in PF.
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Vic, thank you for clarifying the current situation with Wizards licensing.
It is very interesting that Wizards went back to the OGL after dropping it in the previous edition. Is this something that Paizo would look into using when the time comes to produce a new edition for PF?
Specifically, I would love to have the combined caster mechanic and scaling spells.
Is this something that Paizo would look into using when the time comes to produce a new edition for PF?I have no better ability to see that future than you do. All I can say is that it's possible.
In the same way that quantum tunnelling of macroscopic objects is "possible"?
No. In the way that someone who has not looked into the issue doesn't want to answer questions about it, is my take. Thank you for clarifying, Vic.
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No. In the way that someone who has not looked into the issue doesn't want to answer questions about it, is my take. Thank you for clarifying, Vic.
Oh, I'm certain Vic and company have looked into this VERY carefully. They may not be sharing with us, but I have no doubt they are very much on top of this.
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I haven't read over the 5e OGL but I'm wondering if it lets Paizo create OGL Forgotten Realms stuff? THAT would be interesting.
The OGL allows use of open content which is usually game mechanics and allows specific exclusion of "Product Identity". So campaign settings are almost always identified as Product Identity. Also nothing in the SRD5 refers to Forgotten Realms or any other campaign setting.
So the short answer is no, it does not.
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The DM's Guild would allow Paizo (or anyone else) to produce Forgotten Realms material. You have to give up distribution rights though, amongst other things (it also has to be for 5E and i don't think it can be Open Content - i believe using the DM Guild or OGL is an either/or proposition).
Im not paizo, but I'm pretty confident predicting that they won't take up the opportunity.
Note that there is no such thing as an "5E OGL". The OGL used for the SRD5 is the same as has been used for the Revised (v.3.5) SRD.
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Maybe it's interesting in this context, that Paizo will be releasing a book of 5E statblocks for the upcoming 2022 Kingmaker re-release.
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It's not doubtful at all. It's a 160-page hardcover that's been part of the crowdfunding campaign and has long been officially announced.
You can check it out here.