So, I was brainstorming ways to allow my ranged inquisitor to gain Improved Precise Shot in PFS, and I got to looking at Sanctified Slayer. At 8th level, I can take a single slayer talent, and one of those options is Ranger Combat Style. I read on another thread somewhere that even though my level would be above 6th when I take the Ranger Combat Style, I couldn't pick Improved Precise Shot because of the wording of the Ranger Combat Style talent:
At 6th level, he may select this talent *again* and add the 6th-level ranger combat feats from his chosen style to the list.
Since this would be the first time I was picking this talent, I wouldn't be able to pick 6th-level ranger combat feats. Sanctified Slayer doesn't get a second talent until 16th level, far too late for PFS.
So I thought about ways to get it with a minimal amount of multiclassing. I don't want to take 6 levels of ranger, so that is out. However, if I take just 2 levels of Slayer I can take a Ranger Combat Style; when I then take Ranger Combat Style as an 8th level Sanctified Slayer, I should be able to take Improved Precise Shot, as I will be above 6th level and will be taking this talent for a second time. Huzzah!
All that which leads to my question: how do the various class features of these two very similar classes interact? If I take 3 levels of Slayer, would the Sneak Attack damage stack from the two sources? How would having Studied Target from both classes stack? Would I have just the single Studied Target feature but add my class levels from both sources, or would I have two different Studied Target features, one with my Slayer level and one with my Sanctified Slayer level?
This doesn't work like you want, anything that doesn't expressly says it stacks doesn't stack.
The SS picks his feats ignoring any slayer levels you have, so in your example you'd be able to pick two feats from the lv2 list.
Sneak attack does stack since it says that it stacks with all other sneak attack.
You'd have two studied targets that overlap, meaning only the best bonuses would apply and the others would not add to anything.
Studied target doesn't stack, but they are separate. So you could have one up on one target and the other on another target. Your levels don't stack for choosing talents, but other prereqs should count towards each other. So, if you picked a combat style as sanctified, you could pick the second choice from slayer at 6th level without having to choose the first pick again.
The combat style is written more restrictively than I remembered. It probably doesn't work towards each other, but expect table variation.
The SS picks his feats ignoring any slayer levels you have, so in your example you'd be able to pick two feats from the lv2 list.
I assumed that the SS ignores any slayer levels, but that doesn't change anything as the SS isn't taking that feat until SS level 8. The way that I understand the Ranger Combat Style slayer talent, there are two requirements that need to be met to take 6th level feats:
1) You need to be at least 6th level2) You need to have already taken a Ranger Combat Style slayer talent
So, when I hit slayer level 2, neither of these conditions are met, so I take a 2nd level feat. However, when I hit 10th level (2 slayer, 8 SS), I have at this point met both of those conditions, yes? My SS level is 8th, so I am above 6th level, and I have already taken a 2nd level ranger combat style feat. Am I misunderstanding the requirements in some way?
Studied target doesn't stack, but they are separate. So you could have one up on one target and the other on another target.
So, because the bonus that is given by studied target is untyped, could I study the same target a second time and get bonuses from both?
Studied target doesn't stack, but they are separate. So you could have one up on one target and the other on another target.So, because the bonus that is given by studied target is untyped, could I study the same target a second time and get bonuses from both?
no, both are the same source so they don't stack. not getting both is what not stacking means.
The SS picks his feats ignoring any slayer levels you have, so in your example you'd be able to pick two feats from the lv2 list.I assumed that the SS ignores any slayer levels, but that doesn't change anything as the SS isn't taking that feat until SS level 8. The way that I understand the Ranger Combat Style slayer talent, there are two requirements that need to be met to take 6th level feats:
1) You need to be at least 6th level
2) You need to have already taken a Ranger Combat Style slayer talentSo, when I hit slayer level 2, neither of these conditions are met, so I take a 2nd level feat. However, when I hit 10th level (2 slayer, 8 SS), I have at this point met both of those conditions, yes? My SS level is 8th, so I am above 6th level, and I have already taken a 2nd level ranger combat style feat. Am I misunderstanding the requirements in some way?
No, since you're not counting your slayer levels you've only taken ranger combat style once as a inquisitor and once as a slayer. Not twice to get the better list.
no, both are the same source so they don't stack. not getting both is what not stacking means.Studied target doesn't stack, but they are separate. So you could have one up on one target and the other on another target.So, because the bonus that is given by studied target is untyped, could I study the same target a second time and get bonuses from both?
Or perhaps not stacking could mean that the levels do not stack when considering the effects, but instead you have two separate things (because two separate things is what separate means). You have the Slayer Studied Target source, and the Sanctified Slayer Studied Target source - two different sources that both provide untyped bonuses.
That's not what it means. If you want to make up definitions go for it. But the rules are that if you did activate both only the better one would be working. Studied Target is the source, you have to separate abilities of Studied Target, but the source of the bonuses is still studied target, so they don't stack. Stacking means the bonuses don't add together but overlap.
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An Inquisitor doesn't need Improved Precise Shot. Take Friendly Fire Maneuvers, and thanks to Solo Tactics, your allies will not provide cover.
Just take Extra Slayer Talent at level 9 to re-select Ranger Combat Style.
Anyone who tells you that you can't because "you don't have the specifically worded class feature" must also believe that Wizards can't select "Improved Familiar," or that neither Rangers nor multiclassed Druids can select "Boon Companion," which we all know is an incredibly silly stance to take.
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An Inquisitor doesn't need Improved Precise Shot. Take Friendly Fire Maneuvers, and thanks to Solo Tactics, your allies will not provide cover.
This is the far more straightforward solution with no hinky rules arguments.