So, on the d20pfsrd site Here it says that clothing can be made from Darkleaf cloth (automatically counted as masterwork) and i was wondering if this meant that clothing would gain the same armor protection stats as cured hide, but since it hols neither spell failure, nor a cap for the dex. bonus, that it would negate that? Having a hardness of 10 naturally i would say it has some measure of armor protection, and clothing has no dex. bonus cap, so +2 doesn't matter for that. What im more interested in is this: What would be the actual armor stats for clothing made from Darkleaf cloth, and would it /gain/ a spell failure from it, even though clothing has no such thing to begin with?
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All darkleaf cloth does is reduce spell failure, ACP, and weight, and increase the maximum dexterity bonus.
Since simple clothing only has one of those four things (weight) that is the only thing affected by being made out of darkleaf.
Darkleaf cloth does what it says and nothing more.
Normal clothing made out of darkleaf cloth would not grant an AC bonus. In fact for adventurer's it's mostly just a waste of money. It's just fancy clothes that weigh less than normal.
Darkleaf cloth does what it says and nothing more.
Normal clothing made out of darkleaf cloth would not grant an AC bonus. In fact for adventurer's it's mostly just a waste of money. It's just fancy clothes that weigh less than normal.
For someone with dumped Str that could be very useful.
Might give you a bit extra Hardness&HP on your clothing than standard cloth. Would that make it worth crafting any magic robes etc out of this to give them a lil more durability perhaps?
Might give you a bit extra Hardness&HP on your clothing than standard cloth. Would that make it worth crafting any magic robes etc out of this to give them a lil more durability perhaps?
Ah, durability was something I missed in my first list.
So weight, HP, and hardness would all be improved.
Might give you a bit extra Hardness&HP on your clothing than standard cloth. Would that make it worth crafting any magic robes etc out of this to give them a lil more durability perhaps?Ah, durability was something I missed in my first list.
So weight, HP, and hardness would all be improved.
Exactly, so since it lists, and i quote from my source "The resulting material is tough as cured hide...." wouldn't a full set of clothing be treated with the same AC as Hide armor gives, seeing as they share the same HP/Toughness by that descriptor. I'm not bother by the +500 GP cost, I'm just curious if it is something worth investing in for that reason.
Yes, technically it makes your clothing more durable and lighter.
When was the last time a GM tracked the weight of your normal clothing or tried to destroy it?
Exactly, so since it lists, and i quote from my source "The resulting material is tough as cured hide...." wouldn't a full set of clothing be treated with the same AC as Hide armor gives, seeing as they share the same HP/Toughness by that descriptor. I'm not bother by the +500 GP cost, I'm just curious if it is something worth investing in for that reason.
No. No it would not. It is simply harder to destroy, it does not bestow any protection to you.
It's not worth investing in unless your GM is an encumbrance nazi.
Alright, so now my question is; what is the best way to armor a sorceress without muddling up her spell casting? {As well as remain ascetically pleasing}?
Nothing to extreme, as i have her with 12 con (-2 for being a drow) but 16 dex, so she will hopefully be sidestepping allot while she hangs behind any fighters. And she gets natural armor for level 7 bloodline power, but for the moment i just want a little extra protection while she is in the early stages of character development.
Alright, so now my question is; what is the best way to armor a sorceress without muddling up her spell casting? {As well as remain ascetically pleasing}?
Nothing to extreme, as i have her with 12 con (-2 for being a drow) but 16 dex, so she will hopefully be sidestepping allot while she hangs behind any fighters. And she gets natural armor for level 7 bloodline power, but for the moment i just want a little extra protection while she is in the early stages of character development.
Simple. Dress in whatever "aesthetically pleasing" style you prefer, and cast Mage Armour. Shield if you want more AC. Mirror Image when you really need to avoid harm. Eventually, get Bracers of Armour.
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Most casters I've seen go with one of two routes: Bracers of Armor, or Silken Ceremonial Armor.
The Bracers eventually give you the highest AC bonus (+8), whereas the Armor caps out earlier (+6). The benefit to the Armor is that it can be further enchanted with special abilities like Fortification or Spell Storing (the Bracers can be, too, but you can put more on the Armor). Also, a set of +5 Armor (+6 AC) is cheaper than +6 Bracers.
Just depends on how long your campaign is going and how much you want to spend on defense.
Haramaki weigh 1/4th as much as Silken Ceremonial Armor and costs 1/10th as much. It also has no max dex while the Silken Ceremonial Armor does. There is REALLY no reason to ever buy Silken Ceremonial Armor for anything other than looks as it's mechanically better in every way.
Silken Ceremonial Armor, Armored Kilt, Mithril Small Shield. Choose one of those armors and the shield and that gives you +2 to AC. Remember that the armor part overlaps with mage armor, so mage armor is better if you can reliably cast it.
Those are the cheap options. Bracers of armor are superior once you get a high enough bonus on them, but are more expensive.
@graystone - Silken Ceremonial Armor has no max dex bonus.
I'm looking at this and I see a dash.
odd, 8 here though and I usually trust AoE over d20
but my ult equip and ult combat both have it as a '-'
searching - be back shortly
EDIT:
I can't see anything in errata, and the SRD for both ult equip and ult combat have it as '-'. This one belongs to d20 near as I can tell.
Huh. Looks like an error somewhere. It is odd that the dash on d20 is smaller than the other dash.
Hmm. Perhaps it is time for an FAQ. Making new thread.
Should be a pretty easy question to get answered. Most likely just an error somewhere.
odd, 8 here though and I usually trust AoE over d20
but my ult equip and ult combat both have it as a '-'searching - be back shortly
EDIT:
I can't see anything in errata, and the SRD for both ult equip and ult combat have it as '-'. This one belongs to d20 near as I can tell.
Yep, I'm with you there. AoN is my go to most time as I tend to find less errors there. Everyone screws up once in a while though as the PRD seems to disagree with it. Most likely it's a copy/paste error from Quilted cloth or Padded armor's entry.
why is this special armor often overlooked?
Maybe it's just me, but aside from utility wands and Pearls of Power, what else are you going to be spending your wizards gold on?
You really haven't calculated the price of filling out your spellbook, maxing your stat items, and buying greater Rods of Metamagic and top end Rings of Wizardry, have you?
But note the cost of Greater Slick is +50% over getting a ring or gloves with the same thing on them, so you aren't saving any money on them by getting it on armor.
==Aelryinth
why is this special armor often overlooked?
Might as well pair it with a Clawhand Shield
why is this special armor often overlooked?
Because there's a hours per level spell at 1st level that gives +4 AC.