It's often helpful to know what you're getting into before you do it, even if that means you waste an explore or have to trigger some other effect. For instance, if you find something horrible, a friend could spyglass, farglass, augury, or scry it from view.
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A big part is you don't have to encounter just because you examined it. Maybe you examine a bane that requires a higher check than you can feasibly pass with your hand. So you don't explore that turn and either go somewhere else next turn or hope someone comes and kills it for you. Maybe you see a boon somebody really wants but you know you'll fail. Again, you don't explore.
Nothing says you have to explore on your turn. If you examine a card that would be better not for you to encounter, you don't.
Because exploring is not mandatory.
Speaking of examining cards, it is an ongoing joke that every time Adowyn has a good hand for exploring a location she immediately examines the boss of the scenario and decided it would be better not to encounter it.
I have a question about the upgrade to this power.
Common sense tells me that the "and shuffle it into the deck" part is intended to be optional. Otherwise this power upgrade is generally a downgrade! As such I'm inclined to read it:
"... you may examine the top card of that location deck, and [another thing you may do is] shuffle it into the deck"
However, I can't feel entirely comfortable about it because to me the grammar really implies "you may: (examine the top card of that location deck and shuffle it into the deck)"
Anyone able to clear this up?
PS The first part of this power has been great, just last game we scouted Isawyn the Diva, and we were able to leave her where she was until we could find Gorebeard. Which is all part why we're picking a new power feat and looking at this now...
I have a question about the upgrade to this power.
Common sense tells me that the "and shuffle it into the deck" part is intended to be optional. Otherwise this power upgrade is generally a downgrade! As such I'm inclined to read it:
"... you may examine the top card of that location deck, and [another thing you may do is] shuffle it into the deck"However, I can't feel entirely comfortable about it because to me the grammar really implies "you may: (examine the top card of that location deck and shuffle it into the deck)"
Anyone able to clear this up?
PS The first part of this power has been great, just last game we scouted Isawyn the Diva, and we were able to leave her where she was until we could find Gorebeard. Which is all part why we're picking a new power feat and looking at this now...
Well Lirianne wasn't FAQ'ed so the card plays as written. So there is no "may". Strange but by the book your "downgrade" seems to apply IMHO.
Hmm... Well, I'll say I played it as the second part being optional when I played Lirianne. It never makes a sense to for a power feat that should upgrade a power to make it more limiting.
There are "exceptions", like Ranzak's boon-addiction exploration power, where the upgrade to expend the results on which you explore is clearly not optional once you take it. But, even there I'm assuming you'd take that power feat because you found more frequent exploration advantageous. After all, you can always choose to fail to acquire a boon and therefore not have to explore.
Hmmm... part of my post apparently didn't make it there. Should have also added that there wasn't any further comment and I couldn't even remember my own post on the topic.
Hi Hawk,
Yes long ago I remembered wanting to answer you following comment from the old thread
In general, I don't think the intention of any power feat is to take away something the power did previously or make something about it worse.
by saying that I can totally foresee a character that would increase some of its feats at the price of decreasing others. That exists for some classes in the RPG (better features, but you must take some curses), ans wouldn't at all be surprising in a MM kind of adventure.
This said I don't think it was the intention for Lirianne, but until Vic gets back to us, I follow Mike's rule "don't care about intentions, read the cards" forces us to play the downgrade I guess.
(*) Not sure what the Scots really mean by "Pawky" (me being poor French already have a hard time understanding anything at all), but be sure it is a compliment to your generic enthousiasm and sense of humour in my mind.
Yeah. And there is that monk where the role totally replaces the base power. I know it isn't perfect, but in general you can tell when it is supposed to be an optional improvement.
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HawkyPawky
Sorry HawkyPawky, this is your name now.
HawkyPawkySorry HawkyPawky, this is your name now.
Seconded.
Lirianne's power should have had a "you may" in it. Added to FAQ.
Woohoo I triggered a FAQ entry! I feel special now.
Thanks for your tireless efforts Vic.
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(*) Not sure what the Scots really mean by "Pawky" (me being poor French already have a hard time understanding anything at all), but be sure it is a compliment to your generic enthousiasm and sense of humour in my mind.
I will accept this as a compliment. Please note my attempt to make this response more humorous was undermined the nearly criminal lack of Hawk like avatars currently available for aliases.
(*) Not sure what the Scots really mean by "Pawky" (me being poor French already have a hard time understanding anything at all), but be sure it is a compliment to your generic enthousiasm and sense of humour in my mind.I will accept this as a compliment. Please note my attempt to make this response more humorous was undermined the nearly criminal lack of Hawk like avatars currently available for aliases.
I see the lack of avatar triggered a program fault unveiling you as an actual robot. The worst kept secret on the forum.
I see the lack of avatar triggered a program fault unveiling you as an actual robot. The worst kept secret on the forum.
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