Bladed Gauntlet??

[C4M3R0N]

What is a bladed gauntlet? I cannot seem to find them when I search for them. Yet this link references them.

Bladed Fist

If anyone can show me what a bladed gauntlet is, or share a link to one, then I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,
Cameron

[Imbicatus]

A bladed gauntlet is a 3.5 item that was never upgraded to pathfinder rules.

[C4M3R0N]

Imbicatus wrote:

A bladed gauntlet is a 3.5 item that was never upgraded to pathfinder rules.

That's what I figured. A couple Google searches had found that. I had hoped it'd been updated.

So if the "Bladed Fist" is used in a Pathfinder campaign, would it be safe to just use the 3.5 stats for the Bladed gauntlet?

[lemeres]

Or just using a punching dagger. Those are katar, which is often what people are talking about with this type of weapon.

Either that or a pata, which is also statted out (but it is an exotic weapon with 'meh' stats). That is a similar type of weapon (from the same area) that is more integrated into a gauntlet like handle for support.

[John Compton]

Based on that stat block, the bladed gauntlet appears to threaten a critical hit on a 20 and do double damage on a critical hit. As a result, my guess is that these are spiked gauntlets (though perhaps they do slashing damage).

[C4M3R0N]

Here's what I found for their stats from 3.5
Bladed Gauntlet

[Blakmane]

C4M3R0N wrote:

Here's what I found for their stats from 3.5

Bladed Gauntlet

That doesn't match the NPC statblock, and if you look at the source, is homebrew and thus not official in any way.

So, that particular link is probably not really relevant in this case.

[ryric]

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

[Imbicatus]

ryric wrote:

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

I just remember keen kukris with improved critical to get to 11-20. I never saw anything that could go to 7-20.

[GM_Beernorg]

I would think the cestus would be a good PF replacement item for the MIA blade gauntlet.

[ryric]

Imbicatus wrote:

ryric wrote:

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

I just remember keen kukris with improved critical to get to 11-20. I never saw anything that could go to 7-20.

The original version had a base range of 17-20/x2, so with keen and improved crit you could get it to 9-20 - then there was a prestige class that improved it by 2 to 7-20.

[lemeres]

ryric wrote:

Imbicatus wrote:

ryric wrote:

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

I just remember keen kukris with improved critical to get to 11-20. I never saw anything that could go to 7-20.

The original version had a base range of 17-20/x2, so with keen and improved crit you could get it to 9-20 - then there was a prestige class that improved it by 2 to 7-20.

Pretty much, whenever talking about 3.0, and there is some random extreme being taken, just assume "there was a prestige class that..." is somewhere in the explanation.

Either that, or something involving psyonics.

[C4M3R0N]

Blakmane wrote:

C4M3R0N wrote:

Here's what I found for their stats from 3.5

Bladed Gauntlet

That doesn't match the NPC statblock, and if you look at the source, is homebrew and thus not official in any way.

So, that particular link is probably not really relevant in this case.

I didn't realize it was homebrew. It didn't read it too thoroughly clearly haha

[Peachbottom]

This is from the Curse of the Crimson Throne adventure path. They are used by the NPC Devargo Barvasi and described as functionally identical to spiked gauntlets, save that they deal slashing damage.

[KainPen]

lemeres wrote:

ryric wrote:

Imbicatus wrote:

ryric wrote:

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

I just remember keen kukris with improved critical to get to 11-20. I never saw anything that could go to 7-20.

The original version had a base range of 17-20/x2, so with keen and improved crit you could get it to 9-20 - then there was a prestige class that improved it by 2 to 7-20.

Pretty much, whenever talking about 3.0, and there is some random extreme being taken, just assume "there was a prestige class that..." is somewhere in the explanation.

Either that, or something involving psyonics.

I it was the Weapon Master prestige class. lol basically ripped out of baldur's gate the game. It was fighter kit of the same name functions pre 3.0, I think it was the testing ground for it. Now it is and soft up version archtype of a fighter. it has come full circle, I really enjoy how a lot of the old 2nd edition kits made their way in to pathfinder as archtypes.

I think i remember it also being in the 2ed skill and power book as a kit also, but it did not function the same.

[C4M3R0N]

Peachbottom wrote:

This is from the Curse of the Crimson Throne adventure path. They are used by the NPC Devargo Barvasi and described as functionally identical to spiked gauntlets, save that they deal slashing damage.

I see that now. Thanks for pointing that out!!

[VargrBoartusk]

Imbicatus wrote:

ryric wrote:

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

I just remember keen kukris with improved critical to get to 11-20. I never saw anything that could go to 7-20.

3.0 pre eratta sword and fist book.. It was.. A dark time in the land.. I had a vorpal one of these when vorpal worked on any crit.

The trick was the bladed gauntlet which was a 1d6 17-20 base
+imp crit 14+
+keen 11+
Weapon master/kensai prestige class BS netted you 1d6 9-20 x3 crit max damage a few times per day more AoOs and wolwind as a standard action. It was great for chump blendering anything that needed a head
plus some auto crits and auto confirms from somewhere and you were golden.

[Firebug]

If you could convince your GM to allow some 3.5 material ... but not the non-stacking changes to Keen/Imp Crit.

Make the Bladed Gauntlet out of wood.

Cast Ironwood.

Cast Spikes from Complete Divine.

Spikes is odd because it is 3.5, but doesn't have the non-stacking language.

Anyway, 5-20.

[Sah]

I think it was the ninjato that had been printed with a crit range of 19-29. Useless extra numbers by itself but by doubling the crit range (keen) it was 9-29, before any other shenanigans.

[VargrBoartusk]

Sah wrote:

I think it was the ninjato that had been printed with a crit range of 19-29. Useless extra numbers by itself but by doubling the crit range (keen) it was 9-29, before any other shenanigans.

IIRC That one was errata'd way quicker though because it was a typo and not just a hur de dur what harm can a high crit range do.

[Sah]

Yeah, but back then our group didn't really look for errata, we just had what was in the books we had on hand.

[N. Jolly]

lemeres wrote:

ryric wrote:

Imbicatus wrote:

ryric wrote:

Wasn't that the 3.0 weapon where you could use crit range stacking to get the crit to 7-20/x2? Good times.

I just remember keen kukris with improved critical to get to 11-20. I never saw anything that could go to 7-20.

The original version had a base range of 17-20/x2, so with keen and improved crit you could get it to 9-20 - then there was a prestige class that improved it by 2 to 7-20.

Pretty much, whenever talking about 3.0, and there is some random extreme being taken, just assume "there was a prestige class that..." is somewhere in the explanation.

Either that, or something involving psyonics.

Could have been book of vile darkness, Disciple of Dispater prestige class, I know one of the features gave metal weapons a stacking bonus to crits with metal weapons, could have easily been something silly like that.

[Cycada]

Tekko-Kagi are the closest things to bladed gauntlets you'll find in Pathfinder, from what I'm aware. They're pretty much 'historical' Wolverine claws, but you use them with a punching motion.