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While this might be the single coolest archetype I've seen in years, the wording of its abilities raises a some questions.
When the id rager enters a bloodrage, he gains additional powers as if he were a phantom (Pathfinder RPG Occult Adventures 78) with the emotional focus he selected as his atavistic focus.
They're not particularly forthcoming on the details of what powers he gets - my initial assumption is "Whatever's listed under that particular emotional focus," but that came into question as I kept reading.
For the emotional foci, almost half of them require slam attacks. Most bloodragers aren't going to have those. Is an Id Rager supposed to get slam attacks like a Phantom when he enters a bloodrage?
If the Id Rager gets slam attacks, emotional focus powers, and nothing else, the archetype works beautifully. However, there's no listed provision to give slam attacks. If there's no slam attacks gained, half of the emotional foci become terrible choices, because their abilities only trigger on a slam attack.
If instead the abilities are altered so that they trigger on any kind of attack, not just slams, that works also. But that's not how the emotional foci are worded.
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This is not errata or a FAQ, just how I read the ability.
For the id rager, go to the emotional focus in request ion. let's say Dedication. The id rager gets the abilities listed with the dedication emotional focus (that is, the additional abilities a phantom receives for having that focus). Skills and saves aren't abilities, so he gets Iron Will, Dutiful Strike (and he counts as both the spiritualist and the phantom, so if you attack the id rager, he gains the benefits listed), defending aura (when 7th), devoted servant (when 12th - which doesn't do anything for him) and steadfast devotion (when 17th).
Unless the id rager has a slam attack, abilities connected to a slam attack don't apply. So the id rager won't benefit from every ability, and some emotional focuses are better than others.
Not everything will work super well, but plenty of the powers are neat.
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Not everything will work super well, but plenty of the powers are neat.This is not errata or a FAQ, just how I read the ability.
For the id rager, go to the emotional focus in request ion. let's say Dedication. The id rager gets the abilities listed with the dedication emotional focus (that is, the additional abilities a phantom receives for having that focus). Skills and saves aren't abilities, so he gets Iron Will, Dutiful Strike (and he counts as both the spiritualist and the phantom, so if you attack the id rager, he gains the benefits listed), defending aura (when 7th), devoted servant (when 12th - which doesn't do anything for him) and steadfast devotion (when 17th).
Unless the id rager has a slam attack, abilities connected to a slam attack don't apply. So the id rager won't benefit from every ability, and some emotional focuses are better than others.
Awesome. Developer commentary which explains what a confusingly-worded archetype does is good enough for me.
Now to go get a slam attack. Thanks for the link, great find.
Morph, I already looked everywhere. The most accessible slam attack requires a 2 level dip into Alchemist and losing an arm.
Morph, I already looked everywhere. The most accessible slam attack requires a 2 level dip into Alchemist and losing an arm.
Sorry to thread necro but you didnt look QUITE everywhere ;), a synthesist summoner dip for one level gets you a slam attack AND a badass skin suit if you so desire, and it also very neatly avoids the usual "Phantoms and Eidolons don't mix" rule since Id Rager has no such restriction
Synthesist Summoner runs into the problem of not being PFS legal, as well as not being in legal in what I believe to be a majority of home games.
so wait, i have a question, how do the phantom bonus feats work for an Id Rager? do they only have the feat while raging? Or is it a constant thing?