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Yes, you need MoMS to benefit from two style feats at once.
I feel like it's not the intent to be able to switch styles in the middle of an action with Combat Style Master, but I don't think it's actually against the rules - you can normally take a free action reload in the middle of a full attack, after all. It doesn't look OP either, given the feat investment and the fact that you wouldn't get Dragon's damage bonus during the attack.
My group has decided this is a fair use of the feats. I used the exact combination all the time.
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The interruption issue was my thought when I suggested it wasn't the intent, but I can't actually find a rule that supports that interpretation, and a free action reload during a full attack suggests that it is possible to interrupt an action at least sometimes.
If this is a home game, definitely ask the GM. I think it's a reasonable combination to allow.
This works for some Styles (Panther, for example), but not for Pummeling. When you take a Pummeling Charge, you need the Style active to be able to full attack at the end of it from start to finish. Once you start the Charge you've already taken the action, so you're kind of locked into "Is this a Charge I can full attack at the end of or not?"
The MoMS dip here is probably your best bet. I have done, and has a player who uses Pummeling and Dragon to full attack, and then swaps Pummeling for Snake afterwards. potent combo.
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While this is another opinion which may spawn 200+ posts, I don't believe you can take actions during other actions (unless really specifically called out). Not even free actions.
Free Action: Free actions consume a very small amount of time and effort. You can perform one or more free actions while taking another action normally. However, there are reasonable limits on what you can really do for free, as decided by the GM.Imho, the meaning of the above "while" is that you can take free actions on a turn while also taking other actions on that turn. Not that you can taken free actions -inside- the resolution of other actions.
In any case, free actions do "consume a small amount of time and effort" and the GM can decide what the "reasonable limits" are.
Expect table variation.
If your position were true then no archer could ever make a full attack.
As Rynjin states, this doesn't work because you need to be using Pummeling Style when you start the charge.
Silly question mayben but I mainly use paper books for reference and don't find Pummeling strike in those I have : so, where was it published?
Advanced Class Guide
thanks, and this raises a new question : Can anybody tell why the Pumeling Charge feat has twin prereqs of BAB 12 AND lvl 8 as either brawler or monk? It doesn't make sense since a brawler only makes BAB 12 at lvl 12 and monk at lvl 16.
thanks, and this raises a new question : Can anybody tell why the Pumeling Charge feat has twin prereqs of BAB 12 AND lvl 8 as either brawler or monk? It doesn't make sense since a brawler only makes BAB 12 at lvl 12 and monk at lvl 16.
You're parsing it wrong, thankfully.
Prereqs: Prerequisite(s): Improved Unarmed Strike, Pummeling Style; base attack bonus +12, brawler level 8th, or monk level 8th.
This is somewhat confusingly laid out, but it's pretty consistent how it's applied across Feats.
The semi-colon here is important. It basically reads: Improved Unarmed Strike and Pummeling Style; base attack bonus +12 OR brawler level 8th OR monk level 8th.
After the semi-colon, you need only one of those things to qualify.
A lot of the newer Style Feats have this kind of thing going on.
(facepalm) Thanksalot
As Rynjin states, this doesn't work because you need to be using Pummeling Style when you start the charge.
I don't know if I agree with this. Say I start a charge with dragon style so that I can ignore difficult terrain. And then I switch to pummeling half way through the charge. Pummeling style needs to be active at the end of the charge, but I see nothing that states you have to do the entire charge with it.
Free actions can be taken in the middle of the charge. Just like you could yell or drop a weapon in the middle of the charge.
I get that this is a lot of action economy and might ruffle some feathers, but I do not see where it would not be allowed.