Do polymorph effects prevent psychic spellcasters from casting their spells?


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Question in title. I'm fairly sure it would not, since polymorph effects don't affect your mind at all, but I'm not 100% familiar with polymorph rules so I'm unsure if there's something I missed.

What do you guys think?

Silver Crusade Contributor

I don't believe there's anything stopping them, and I'm relatively familiar with those rules. I believe that they can also cast while in gaseous form.

Silver Crusade Contributor

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In related news, the Fox Shape controversy made me want to build a kitsune mesmerist who hangs around in fox form, enchanting fools.

"Hey kid, it's me - the magic talking fox."

(Before someone points it out, yes, a ring of eloquence is involved.)


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Unless you flub your will vs baleful polymorph or something similar you should be fine.

While "I'm a squirrel!" isn't technically an emotion effect I doubt you can concentr.. OOOO ACOOOOORN!


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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Unless you save your will vs baleful polymorph or something similar you should be fine.

While "I'm a squirrel!" isn't technically an emotion effect I doubt you can concentr.. OOOO ACOOOOORN!

Meanwhile, the other nearby psychic caster laughs at the distracted squirrel. Instead of polymorphing into a squirrel, he was smart and turned himself into a dog. No way a dog would - SQUIRREL!

Liberty's Edge

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Kalindlara wrote:

In related news, the Fox Shape controversy made me want to build a kitsune mesmerist who hangs around in fox form, enchanting fools.

"Hey kid, it's me - the magic talking fox."

(Before someone points it out, yes, a ring of eloquence is involved.)

Had a lot of fun with that this weekend. Picked it up in between adventures, so adventure 1 the fox didn't talk and used paw signals. Adventure 2 the fox only talked to the caydenite dwarven fighter when he was really really drunk.


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Kalindlara wrote:
I don't believe there's anything stopping them, and I'm relatively familiar with those rules. I believe that they can also cast while in gaseous form.

In gaseous form?!?

No you can't...

I mean...

That's just...

Huh.


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Kalindlara wrote:

In related news, the Fox Shape controversy made me want to build a kitsune mesmerist who hangs around in fox form, enchanting fools.

"Hey kid, it's me - the magic talking fox."

(Before someone points it out, yes, a ring of eloquence is involved.)

Gave me an idea. Catfolk with the Black Cat feat wearing an enchanted top hat with two hyperactive halfling minions called 'LingOne and 'LingTwo.

Grand Lodge

Johnny_Devo wrote:
Question in title. I'm fairly sure it would not, since polymorph effects don't affect your mind at all,

That's not entirely true. fail your will save against Baleful Polymorph and your mind becomes that of the form you've been changed into, at which point questions about casting become rather moot.

Grand Lodge

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So the mental classes don't have somatic, verbal or material components?


They have thought and emotion components in place of verbal and somatic. I think they still have material components, but eschew materials fixes that.

The Concordance

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illyume wrote:
They have thought and emotion components in place of verbal and somatic. I think they still have material components, but eschew materials fixes that.

Isn't it only expensive material components?


So im thinking either straight psychic, sorcerer with psychic bloodline, or a mindblade magus with some sort weapon a fox can wield and the natural weapon spell combat arcana. What do you guys think?

Liberty's Edge

If i recall correctly, and I don't have my book to reference right now, to do the blasts requires some body part to "point" or "direct" the attack. So unless some was polymorphed into a jelly or something, they should be able to continue to use their abilities.

Silver Crusade Contributor

ShieldLawrence wrote:
illyume wrote:
They have thought and emotion components in place of verbal and somatic. I think they still have material components, but eschew materials fixes that.
Isn't it only expensive material components?

Correct.


Polymorph in general doesn't affect your emotions or thoughts (unless some specific type says it does), so you should be good to go. Neither does gaseous form inhibit emotions or thoughts, you don't become an automaton husk or anything.


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Kalindlara wrote:
ShieldLawrence wrote:
illyume wrote:
They have thought and emotion components in place of verbal and somatic. I think they still have material components, but eschew materials fixes that.
Isn't it only expensive material components?
Correct.

Well, now I know!

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