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but do you tell the judge when you are using them? It is a Circumstance bonus after all...I generally avoid them unless its a craft/profession tool or a listed item (mw thieves tools or pathfinder chronicles for knowledges)
If we (those of us who do "live on the forums") ma
Not usually. Something like masterwork thieves tools, a pathfinder chronicle, or a caligraphy set are all I'll buy, and they come with an objective set of rules for when they apply. If its thematic/in character I'll spend time describing taking the chronicles out from under the pillow or flipping through the ooze dichothomous key but not for every roll.
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A bit of both, actually. Electronic Locks impose a -5 penalty for not using an E-Pick, but that doesn't appear to replace the -2 penalty for not using tools at all. So if you use nothing, you get a -7.
Since according to the description for E-picks they're used like thieves tools for electronic locks, I wouldn't also require thieves tools; E-Picks remove the entire penalty.
Meanwhile, MW thieves tools provide an unconditional +2 circumstance bonus to Disable Device, because that's what the item says it does.
So with both MW thieves tools and an E-Pick you'd be better off than with only E-Picks.
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Well, in Jade Regent, there is the Shinobi Shozoku, which functions as a Masterwork Stealth Tool.
That is not available in PFS, but you could just flavor a Masterwork Stealth Tool, as a Shinobi Shozoku.
That's how I came up with my masterwork tool for stealth upthread. Lighter than any other clothing.
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What about masterwork stirrups that give a +2 to ride for getting in and out of the saddle (fast mount/dismount)?Anyone have thoughts about this for a masterwork item?
I have no problem with it as a DM but I avoid such things as a player. They are eminently sensible following the guidelines in ultimate equipment but anything you make with those guidelines gets a little home brew for me to feel comfortable buying as a player.
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I don't see why this wouldn't work. As far as I can tell, the general consensus seems to be that as long as it isn't a blanket +2 to all ______ skill checks and has some thought behind it, you're good. There are other aspects to the ride skill such as staying in the saddle and directing the mount so this looks good to me (for what it's worth).
My personal favorite masterwork tool is for small characters with diplomacy: a step stool. Now people can take you seriously!
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There already is a pseudo-masterwork ride tool, the military saddle, that gives you a +2 bonus to staying in the saddle. So consider carefully before making a new masterwork tool for that skill, cause down that path is the Military saddle with masterwork stirrups with masterwork spurs with masterwork high grip seat leather with masterwork greenwood tree (the wood structure inside a saddle) with a masterwork fire-forged bit and bridle.
Not that i'm actually opposed to someone dropping 450g for a +2 to every aspect to a ride check. but I want to open the conversation to the community.
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I don't see why this wouldn't work. As far as I can tell, the general consensus seems to be that as long as it isn't a blanket +2 to all ______ skill checks and has some thought behind it, you're good. There are other aspects to the ride skill such as staying in the saddle and directing the mount so this looks good to me (for what it's worth).
My personal favorite masterwork tool is for small characters with diplomacy: a step stool. Now people can take you seriously!
+2 to perform Oratory, only for political speeches.
A soap box.
That's not generic. It only gives you a bonus when dealing with citizens of the appropriate country. So it should be fine. :)Not every profession is going to have a generic masterwork "tool" for it. Diplomacy is good example of this.Flag lapel pin?
Tin of exquisite breath mints. :) (Actually seen on a character)
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That's not generic. It only gives you a bonus when dealing with citizens of the appropriate country. So it should be fine. :)Not every profession is going to have a generic masterwork "tool" for it. Diplomacy is good example of this.Flag lapel pin?Tin of exquisite breath mints. :) (Actually seen on a character)
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That's not generic. It only gives you a bonus when dealing with citizens of the appropriate country. So it should be fine. :)Not every profession is going to have a generic masterwork "tool" for it. Diplomacy is good example of this.Flag lapel pin?Tin of exquisite breath mints. :) (Actually seen on a character)
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Downside:
-2 when dealing with gnolls
Get you arrested in certain parts of Cheliax too.
Hmm... I wonder how difficult it would be to cart around a Hate Pit for a demoralizing bonus.
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There already is a pseudo-masterwork ride tool, the military saddle, that gives you a +2 bonus to staying in the saddle. So consider carefully before making a new masterwork tool for that skill, cause down that path is the Military saddle with masterwork stirrups with masterwork spurs with masterwork high grip seat leather with masterwork greenwood tree (the wood structure inside a saddle) with a masterwork fire-forged bit and bridle.
Not that i'm actually opposed to someone dropping 450g for a +2 to every aspect to a ride check. but I want to open the conversation to the community.
A cracked magenta ioun stone is only 800g and gives you a modular +2 competence bonus that you can switch between different skills.