yes
you don't need to use hands, you could kick, but it does use your main and off hand attacks.
1. Absolutely yes.
2. Absolutely not, you can kick, elbow, headbutt, or any number of other things.
Is there some errata I am unaware of? Because otherwise, unarmed strike is one weapon, and you need two weapons for TWF._
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It's in the FAQ:
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qie
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Additionally if I dip 2 levels of brawler and get the brawlers flurry that says that you have two weapon fighting can I then take improved/greater two weapon fighting when I have the BAB from another class to do so?
Yes, but only usable during a brawler's flurry if I remember right as you do count as having the requisite feat while flurrying, but don't otherwise.
Brawlers Flurry is just very badly written. I don't know why it wasn't fixed in the errata.
I mean that is the same anyways. Does that mean I cant take improved twf?
There is a rules clarification that says: "If you have consistent and reliable access to a prerequisite for a Feat, you may take that Feat" with the caveat of "you only have the abilities of the dependent feat while you meet all Prerequisites".
Brawlers, unlike a Monk, legitimately have Two-Weapon Fighting every time they make a Full Attack Action using the Brawler's Flurry ability.
Therefore, yes, so long as you meat the Dexterity and Base Attack Bonus requirements of ITWF and GTWF, you may take them both as paid-for Feats or through Martial Flexibility.
You ONLY may use those Feats when you use Brawler's Flurry, but you generally wouldn't want to do any Two-Weapon Fighting WITHOUT it being Brawler's Flurry anyway.
THe primary and off hand are considered 'used' for IUS even if you 'flavor' them as kicks or headbutts.
This prevents people from then trying to stack natural attacks on top of UA attacks by saying 'I'ma kick with IUS for those attacks, and then attack with my claws!" Nope, can't do it. The limbs for the claw attacks are considered to be 'in use' for fighting, even if you're kicking.
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THe primary and off hand are considered 'used' for IUS even if you 'flavor' them as kicks or headbutts.
This prevents people from then trying to stack natural attacks on top of UA attacks by saying 'I'ma kick with IUS for those attacks, and then attack with my claws!" Nope, can't do it. The limbs for the claw attacks are considered to be 'in use' for fighting, even if you're kicking.
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Actually, Natural Attacks ARE allowed to be used with normal Unarmed Attacks during a normal Full Attack Action even with Unarmed Strikes. It just has to be a normal Full Attack Action - not a Flurry.
A Monk's Flurry of Blows, a Brawler's Flurry, and an Unchained Monk's Flurry all specifically say that Natural Attacks cannot be used with the Flurry, nor does Two-Weapon Fighting allow for any more attacks than what is prescribed. Basically, you're trading a potentially-greater number of total Attacks via Natural Attacks for the ability to get a lot of Attacks without actually having to pay for TWF/ITWF/GTWF.
Some devs (or ex-devs), like SKR, aren't happy that Natural Attacks can be used this way, and feel that you shouldn't be able to make more Attacks, Natural or Otherwise, in a round than your total Base Attack allows for; however, at the end of the day, it does, regardless of what they feel. Not only is it a matter of RAW, it's also demonstrated by their own Stat Blocks for monsters and NPCs.
Even when not using twf?
I guess it would only count if you are actually using twf
It's more complicated than that.
Under a normal Full Attack Action you can use Unarmed Attacks and Natural Attacks together; if you have a Bite and 2 Claws and 2 iterative Attacks (meaning you've got a +6-+11), you can go:
Unarmed (BAB+0) / Bite (BAB-5) / Claw (BAB-5) / Claw (BAB-5) / Unarmed (BAB-5)
If you naturally have Two-Weapon Fighting, meaning TWF provided from Feats ONLY, you can go:
Unarmed (BAB-2) / Unarmed (BAB-2) / Bite (BAB-5) / Claw (BAB-5) / Claw (BAB-5) / Unarmed (BAB-7)
Flurry Abilities, however, specifically disallow for Natural Attacks to be used in addition to or as PART of a Flurry.
The reasons are pretty much this:
Natural Attacks, when used in tandem with normal Attacks, including Unarmed Attacks, ALL become Secondary Natural Attacks, meaning that they are made at your BAB-5 and deal [dice]+1/2 Strength damage; you cannot, however, use a Natural Attack more than the number of Natural Weapons of that type you have in a Full Round Action, and you can't make iterative Attacks with them (so you MUST have 2 Claw Attacks to make 2 claw attacks, etc.), but you ALSO don't add the -2 Penalty from Two-Weapon Fighting to Attacks made with them, so it's all about the trade-offs.
Offhand Attacks ALSO normally deal [dice]+1/2 Strength, but can be increased with the Dual Slice Feat to your normal Strength mod.
Flurry Abilities add additional Attacks either by simulating or directly giving access to the TWF Feat Tree OR by simply giving Extra Attacks flat, AND they bypass the need for Dual Slice.
Flurries, however, don't stack with real TWF feats, and Natural Attacks can't be used with them because they specifically say as much; you need to take a Feat to even be ABLE to use a Natural Attack in place of one of your normal Attacks made as part of a Flurry.
Since you already naturally get a greater number of Attacks without any effort besides just BEING a Flurry class, adding Natural Attacks on top of these would allow for builds that can spam 5+ attacks per round by lv5 without much or any extra effort.
chbgraphicarts: I have researched the issue as I have a PFS character that uses this and wanted an official ruling in case I ran into a difficult GM. I 100% agree with everything you said, btw. However, you said, "Not only is it a matter of RAW, it's also demonstrated by their own Stat Blocks for monsters and NPCs." Are you able to provide a reference for that? I would like to add that to my stack of proof.
1. Absolutely yes.
2. Absolutely not, you can kick, elbow, headbutt, or any number of other things.
I thought I saw somewhere that the kick/elbow/headbutt were limited to the monk/brawler unarmed strike. Is that just my mind playing tricks on me?
I thought I saw somewhere that the kick/elbow/headbutt were limited to the monk/brawler unarmed strike. Is that just my mind playing tricks on me?1. Absolutely yes.
2. Absolutely not, you can kick, elbow, headbutt, or any number of other things.
In the monk section it says they can use stuff, but in the normal unarmed strike it says the same thing. It's just reminder text.
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Yes, anyone can use Kicks/Headbutts whatever.
From the Combat chapter of the CRB.
Unarmed Attacks: Striking for damage with punches, kicks, and head butts is much like attacking with a melee weapon, except for the following: