Do Archetype Deeds Replace Deeds You Already Possess?

[pandacache]

If you were to gain a deed via Amateur Gunslinger / Swashbuckler and then take a level in a Grit / Panache granting class with a deed-altering Archetype, what happens to your existing deeds? Do they get changed or not?

Example:

I take Amatuer Swashbuckler and choose the Opportune Parry and Riposte (Ex) deed.
I take a level in Swashbuckler, using the Picaroon archetype.
Since Picaroon replaces the Opportune Parry and Riposte deed with the Melee Shooter deed, which deed do I have access to?

I can foresee this going several different ways...

A: I can trade in the Amateur Swashbuckler feat for Extra Panache, (as per the feat's special line), presumably losing my access to the Opportune Parry and Riposte deed. At this point, I have a level in Picaroon, which has removed this deed's availability, replacing it with Melee Shooter. I can choose a 1st level deed, with Melee Shooter as a valid option, but not Opportune Parry and Riposte.

B: I can keep Amateur Swashbuckler, foregoing the trade-in for Extra Panache. I retain the Opportune Parry and Riposte deed via the feat, and can choose Melee Shooter as my 1st level deed as a Picaroon.

C: I can keep Amateur Swashbuckler, foregoing the trade-in for Extra Panache. I retain the Opportune Parry and Riposte deed via the feat, but since I have a level in Picaroon now, the deed gets replaced by Melee Shooter, as per the archetype. I can now choose a different first level deed as a Picaroon.

These kinds of situations seem to pop up frequently if you take levels in Swashbuckler or Gunslinger after starting with their Amatuer feats, and I'm not entirely sure how they're supposed to be handled outside of GM fiat. Does anyone have any ruling insight into these interactions?

[Mark Seifter]

D) You don't qualify for Amateur X if you take levels in the class, since you fail to meet the prereqs after that point, so it's best to take the feat's free retrain option, rather than leave yourself with a feat for which you don't qualify taking up a dead spot.

[GM Rednal]

Archetypes replace abilities granted by that class. If the abilities were granted by a different class - or by a feat, or by a template, or by any other method - then taking an Archetype would not affect them unless specifically noted otherwise. So in the example, you'd probably lose the Opportune Parry and Riposte deeds from Swashbuckler, keeping the ones from Amateur Swashbuckler.

Edit: Also, what he said. XD *Did not actually check the rules text of those specific abilities* However, I stand by my comments for other situations where you might be getting a duplicate power replaced.

[pandacache]

Heh, that simplifies things. THanks, Mark!

[Kaouse]

I think after the errata you can't even take Opportune Parry and Riposte with Amateur Swashbuckler. Or did I mishear things?

[Grey_Mage]

One other tidbit: Mark pretty much answered this one, but to add one thing for clarity if I may. Under the new errata opp parry and riposte can't be selected under amatuer swashbuckler.

Edit: Ninja'd by 2 seconds!