Reincarnating old people.


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If someone gets reincarnated after dying from old age, can someone else kill them by casting a Wish or a Miracle to

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restore a reincarnated character to his or her original form

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Or would that simply make them look like the young adult version of themselves?


I'd say it depends on the wording of wish. It might kill if someone is not careful or if the caster intends to kill the victim.


Very inventive way to kill something. Props, man.


If you,"Restore them to their proper identity" you wasted a wish to no effect.

"I wish them to return to their previous form." will kill them.


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eh it might not kill them, they may get like 10-20 seconds before they die again.


Whoa.

This is a koan.

Satori!


Exactly. No matter how many times they are wished back and then reincarnated, they should always move back and forth between the two forms. That is unless the subject repents or learns, in which case they may skip an incarnation.

If you want to be cleaver, some wisher who asks for the subject's original face might cause the subject to look like Arowen because that was their first incarnation. :)


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Goth Guru wrote:

Exactly. No matter how many times they are wished back and then reincarnated, they should always move back and forth between the two forms. That is unless the subject repents or learns, in which case they may skip an incarnation.

If you want to be cleaver, some wisher who asks for the subject's original face might cause the subject to look like Arowen because that was their first incarnation. :)

wait if you're a 100 year old human and reincarnated as an elf, are you a decrepit elf or a 100 year old elf? or just a middle aged elf?


Bandw2 wrote:
Goth Guru wrote:

Exactly. No matter how many times they are wished back and then reincarnated, they should always move back and forth between the two forms. That is unless the subject repents or learns, in which case they may skip an incarnation.

If you want to be cleaver, some wisher who asks for the subject's original face might cause the subject to look like Arowen because that was their first incarnation. :)

wait if you're a 100 year old human and reincarnated as an elf, are you a decrepit elf or a 100 year old elf? or just a middle aged elf?

You're a young adult elf because the spell says so.


Goth Guru wrote:


If you want to be cleaver,

Sadly, few people do. :(


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I always play kobolds, but i'm not sure if i'd want to be their cleaver.

@ ipslore the red, so it does say that, pardon me but the spell is the hardest to read of all the resurrection spells and as such i ignore it mostly.


Pardon my spelling. Spell check is useless when the nearest correct spelling is a different word.


I would still argue Wish would turn the subject into a young adult version of themselves, since it was their "original form" when they were of that age.


I could actually see it going both ways, within the same story. Some wishes get twisted, after all, and some miracle-granting deities have a mean streak.


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form has no baring on age, if your form was old as about to be dead, then that was your original form. there's no reason it'd even account for age.


Yeah, if it would restore you to being a young adult, it could just as easily restore you to being a fetus. :P


EDIT: I'd just like to underline that while this is a clarification, none of it is directly quoting any "contentious" posts.

Order of Chaos wrote:
I would still argue Wish would turn the subject into a young adult version of themselves, since it was their "original form" when they were of that age.
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Yeah, if it would restore you to being a young adult, it could just as easily restore you to being a fetus. :P

My point here was that if you would expect the "original form" to make them a young adult—thus failing as an offensive technique—it could just as easily make them an infant—an equally "original" form, and quite potent as an offensive technique.

There is nothing about "young adult" that should inherently cause a wish spell to recognize it as their "true" form.


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so the word enemy shows up once, and that's by order of chaos's most recent post, where was it declared that malicious intent was the reason for the wish spell?

i do believe sir, that you wrote your OP poorly.

no matter, as intent of the wish has little baring on how much dead that guy is now since his original form was on deaths door.


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A half orc barbarian is hardly original. If that is what they were before reincarnating, I would have them become a Flumph. That's an original form! :)

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