I have read the guides and still don't understand. I know that aasimars can get in to MT very early. And a oracle of wood would help. But I don't want to go wood for my revaluation. I want to go oracle after I take my levels in MT. Preferably a revaluation that gives me my cha to AC.
I plan on going evangelist on top of MT if I have to wait. So I think the Aasimar is the best option for this. Be cause is read the guide for obedience as well. I want to keep the casting levels as close as possible if it is not possible then I understand. Not including the magical knack feat. I understand what it really dose the saves don't go up. I get it but I like to buff or area control.
And with that I think this character can be pretty effective all around. Casting feats with a revelation that expands my melee prowess seems balanced and not overpowered.
Thanks in advance for the advise.
Devs reverted the Early Entry stuff, sadly. If you wanna be a MT you need to fufill the qualifications the old fashioned way.
With that combo you would be level 9 before you could take your first level in mystic thurge.
Devs reverted the Early Entry stuff, sadly. If you wanna be a MT you need to fufill the qualifications the old fashioned way.
Link please.
Ok so is their any way to do this with all feats skills and races. I would like that link on it not working any more. I just like the idea of CHA to AC and spell casting.
I can keep dex at a low 13 just for feats. I don't know how CHA works with combat reflexes though.
When did the dev's decide to go back on the SLA counting as a prerequisite? Other what is the fastest way to get oracle/ sorcerer using any means necessary? Race, traits, feats, items.
Devs reverted the Early Entry stuff, sadly. If you wanna be a MT you need to fufill the qualifications the old fashioned way.Link please.
Here it is.Devs reverted the Early Entry stuff, sadly. If you wanna be a MT you need to fufill the qualifications the old fashioned way.Link please.
So this means a lot of characters are invalid now. And we can't do this with any of the prestige classes now. Man this sucks. My eldritch knight won't work anymore.
All of the Oracle Cha to dex abilities have specific wording , thet do not replace Dex merely replace it for specific functions such as Reflex saves and Dex to AC bonus. Your initiative, number of AO from combat reflexes, skill modifiers etc are all still based on your Dex.
Not sure what you are trying to do with your build it sounds like you intend to be in melee so pure Oracle would probably be better.
However as written the rules at the moment are to enter Mystic Theurge you must be able to cast 2nd level Divine and Arcane spells that means using Oracle and Sorceror you must have 4 levels of each and so can take your first level of mystic theurge at level 9.
Mystic theurge builds are generally very weak particularly until you have several levels of Mystic theurge as a pure caster would have 4th or 5th level spells while you are still restricted to 2nd or 3rd level spells
Have you thought about an Ora/Sorcerer with full Evangelist without MT instead? There are a couple of other classes that would synergize well with this combo...
Have you thought about an Ora/Sorcerer with full Evangelist without MT instead? There are a couple of other classes that would synergize well with this combo...
Go on....
All of the Oracle Cha to dex abilities have specific wording , thet do not replace Dex merely replace it for specific functions such as Reflex saves and Dex to AC bonus. Your initiative, number of AO from combat reflexes, skill modifiers etc are all still based on your Dex.
Not sure what you are trying to do with your build it sounds like you intend to be in melee so pure Oracle would probably be better.
However as written the rules at the moment are to enter Mystic Theurge you must be able to cast 2nd level Divine and Arcane spells that means using Oracle and Sorceror you must have 4 levels of each and so can take your first level of mystic theurge at level 9.
Mystic theurge builds are generally very weak particularly until you have several levels of Mystic theurge as a pure caster would have 4th or 5th level spells while you are still restricted to 2nd or 3rd level spells
Thank you very much for clarifying that for me.
Well, for starters, if you have both Oracle and Sorcerer, you can go Enlightened Philosopher with Oracle, as you get Appraise and Spellcraft with Sorcerer as class skills anyway, and you gain ALL the Know skills as class skills too. Lore Oracle also gets the AC/Know skill CHA bonuses.
Depending on if you like the spells with that...
E.P. BUT you have to be Lawful
For gaining the capstone (or nearly, and at least some 9th level spells depending on Dips), if you are playing with Prestige Points and factions, you can get some Caster Levels back as well...
It leaves you free for possibly a level of Daring Champion or Swashbuckler or even some other class that shores up saves/HP/BAB for the Charisma synergy and finesse options (depends on if you favor STR or DEX as the least dumped), but it all depends on how many Sorcerer levels you end up taking... and which bloodline.
If you are Evil, you might even be able to get away with a level or two of Diabolist on top of that for the Imp...
Summary: The Dips depend on what exactly you want to do. It may even be better going Ora10/Eva10 (with alternate Ora/Eva past 6th)...
What about a Empyreal sorcerer and a druid? Would this be viable? How would I get to the build faster?
Dose the inquisition trick work? I actually want more levels in druid about 6-8.
What the best way to go about this? Races, traits, feats, skills, anything would help.
re: sorcerers, have a look at this?
Guide to Sorcerer Bloodlines and Heritages
If you want some of the cool Bloodline powers of a Sorcerer, but want mostly Oracle/Evangelist then Eldritch Heritage is a possibility?
Empyreal/Druid could work; that's the Wisdom Wildblooded Bloodline, yes? A Saurian druid might be cool, what with the Summoning?
I suppose the real question is what path do you see your Mystic Theurge/Evangelist taking when you get to higher levels? What do you want out of the build? And why is is so important to "get to it faster"? As most Prestige Classes need you to have certain Caster Levels...
If you are allowed optional rules of Fame: Prestige Points then you could buy the following, as this would get you the spell levels earlier:
Inner Sea Magic/Faction Guide to Eclectic/Esoteric Training. You have to have a faction that fits though, and a GM willing to allow the extra paperwork...
Ancient Lorekeeper elven oracle, possibly with burning and/or haunted curse, gives a few arcane spells known, for the blended arcane/divine feel. EH too if there's bloodline powers you're hankering for.
Unless what you want is more low-level spells than you can use in a day, but no actual level appropriate spells until maybe 20th level, in which case MT however you like is perfect.
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Here are a few options to consider for combining arcane and divine spells:
Look through the oracle mysteries for one that has the spells you would like to poach from an arcane class. Play a standard oracle with that mystery. Pick a curse that gives you more spells (Blackened is good in this regard, if you don't mind being seriously nerfed in melee combat.).
If none of those mysteries appeal to you, play a half-elven oracle with the Ancient Lorekeeper archetype. You eventually get a total of 9 sorcerer/wizard spells of levels 0 through 8.
If you want to focus on arcane spells but provide some healing, play either a bard or an arcanist with the White Mage archetype.
Finally, if your GM permits the use of 3rd party products, try the Magister class.
The character will be level 18 will that be a good level for the MT or the druid/Empyreal sorc?
Paizo's hated Prestige Classes from the beginning of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game.
Makes you wonder why they bothered making an entire book full of them, doesn't it?