OK, how would a sorcerer with the draconic bloodline who takes classes as a drag disc, be played if they decide to go blood rager (draconic bloodline)? Would he add levels of sorc/DD to his Blood rager class? do the abilities stack, etc?
I have seen this debate a few times, but unless there is an entirely different sets of write ups, such as a sorcerers draconic bloodline which is different in writing as well as a blood ragers draconic bloodline, there is no different bloodline. all it says in the blood ragers write up is "A bloodrager must pick one bloodline upon taking his first level of bloodrager" The fact that they gain their abilities at different points then a sorcerer is fines since it is not a sorcerer, but it is the same things at different levels.
If it is suppose to be different, then a new set of blood lines should be written up showing that their powers and abilities are different so that one cn say that they do not overlap or stack with each other because they are different in their write ups.
Just my 2 cents worth... but thanks for the reply.
Skipping the DD, sorc and BR bloodlines aren't pick one class and combine levels for effective bloodline, they'd be tracked separately instead.
DD should continue that. If there's no sorc levels involved, technically it would give an effective sorc bloodline level, independent of any BR levels.
It's a reasonable house rule to let DD increase BR bloodline instead, but it would be a house rule.
Bloodrager is a Dragon Disciple in base-class form.
Though if your players want to go Bloodrager > DD then it's reasonable to rule that Blood of Dragons stacks with levels of ALL classes that grant Bloodlines.
One major thing to remember is that DD was written well before Alternate Class Features were a thing, and at the time it wasn't a certainty that anything BESIDES Sorcerer would gain a Bloodline.
Obviously now you have several different ways of gaining true Bloodlines, so Dragon Disciple may either get a rewrite at some point, or it should just be assumed in homegames to work with any class granting the Draconic Bloodline, not just Sorcerers alone.
I have seen this debate a few times, but unless there is an entirely different sets of write ups, such as a sorcerers draconic bloodline which is different in writing as well as a blood ragers draconic bloodline, there is no different bloodline. all it says in the blood ragers write up is "A bloodrager must pick one bloodline upon taking his first level of bloodrager" The fact that they gain their abilities at different points then a sorcerer is fines since it is not a sorcerer, but it is the same things at different levels.
If it is suppose to be different, then a new set of blood lines should be written up showing that their powers and abilities are different so that one cn say that they do not overlap or stack with each other because they are different in their write ups.
Just my 2 cents worth... but thanks for the reply.
And since they are different is this a, strange, way of saying there is no stacking?
Jbadams - The blood rager chooses a blood-line, where does it come from??? The only ones written were for the sorcerer. He chooses a bloodline that falls under the sorcererous heading and has those abilities at a slightly lower progression. What I mean by different would be that at 1st level a sorcerer with the draconic blood lines gets a claw attack and a the first bloodline power for a Blood rager would be "Immunity to magic sleep effects and paralysis effects"
The second blood-line power for the sorcerer would be Dragon resistance at 3rd, for the Bloodrager it could be "Frightful Presence" In this instance I would agree with everybody that the blood-rager draconic blood-line would not be the same as the sorcerers draconic blood-line because they are written up as different blood-lines, but to say that they both use the same blood-line, but advance slower so pretend it is not the same is a bit lazy. If it were not meant to be the same (that is to treat blood-lines as blood-lines regardless of how one is benefiting from it) then the write-up of one blood-line should be different enough from the oher so that there is an ability difference (as well as a when aquired difference if any are similar).
Kestral, was not saying both would go up, just one :-)
Kestral - theonly blood-lines that ahve been written up have always been geared towards the sorcerer (as they were the ony class to benefit from them) now that the bloodrager exist, there are no bloddlines written up for a bloodrager, they are to use the ones that have always existed (that belong to the sorcerer and most think it is a sorcerer exclusive ability).
So if there are bloodlines written for the bloodrager, that are not the ones that existed for the sorcerer I would like to be shown so that I am better informed, but to say they can use the sorcerer's bloodline as there bloodline is not the same as saying they have there own bloodline write up.
Just in case I am also of the belief that bloodline should be an ability that manifest itself in certain individuals (regardless of class, currently sorcerer and bloodrager) and work as stated in the blood-line write up. That is to say that the power of the angels, or demons, or dragon flows thru your vains and stop right there, not to say that the power of the angels, and demons, and dragons flows thru your vains, but it is different if yo uare a sorcerer or a blood rager. The class will describe when (and if) you attain an ability.
A dragon looking over a sorcerer and a bloodragers
"The force is strong within you, yung padawan."
:-)
Thank you Kestral and Jbadams, never saw the blood-line write ups that you pointed out in the PRD, every time I clicked blood-line it always took me to the sorcerer ones :-)
My bad and many thanks for pointing this out to me (tips hat of to you both)