Sleight of hand, can you conceal a weapon when stripped of all gear?


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The sleight of hand skill allows you to conceal a weapon on your body.
The skill specifies there is a bonus for loose or baggy clothing, but there are no penalties or restrictions listed for not wearing clothing.
does getting strip searched automatically allow searchers to find concealed weapons?

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The better question is: Is it worth it? There are only so many places a naked guy can hide a dagger...


I would say it depends if the clothes could still hide the item without it falling out while you were stripped I might allow it, though the searcher would be getting a bonus to the check. Now if you hoping to still have it on your near naked person probably not.


You can but you may not like where it goes.

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I suppose you could do it Harry Houdini style and swallow a small weapon and regurgitate it later, but I'd probably make that a Sleight-of-Hand check using Con instead of Dex.


If the character's hands are not bound and his constant movement doesn't irk the person searching him, I would say yes. It would be similar to a magician hiding an item from an audience by misdirecting their attention while shifting the item from one hand to the other, that sort of thing. Admittedly, a dagger is larger than a coin, card or ball so that complicates things and most magicians prefer long sleeves over nudity. That said, I would assign some hefty penalties and let the character give it a go if they really wanted rather than disallowing it outright.


RainyDayNinja wrote:
The better question is: Is it worth it? There are only so many places a naked guy can hide a dagger...

In his chest hair, obviously!

Grand Lodge

Avadriel wrote:

The sleight of hand skill allows you to conceal a weapon on your body.

The skill specifies there is a bonus for loose or baggy clothing, but there are no penalties or restrictions listed for not wearing clothing.
does getting strip searched automatically allow searchers to find concealed weapons?

Certain very small weapons MIGHT be workable under certain circumstances.

Here's the thing... if you're the GM you WANT the players to succeed on this as long as they make some effort at hiding something. So this is when the "less than totally brilliant minion" rule comes into play.

On the other hand maybe you want them helpless so the answer does become no.

The game assumes that strip searching isn't the default scenario.


Avadriel wrote:

The sleight of hand skill allows you to conceal a weapon on your body.

The skill specifies there is a bonus for loose or baggy clothing, but there are no penalties or restrictions listed for not wearing clothing.
does getting strip searched automatically allow searchers to find concealed weapons?

Conceal Held Item: [Snip] You can only attempt the check if you have a piece of clothing, another held item, or body part large enough to hide the item behind, such as a cloak. [snip]


Sadistic GM wrote:
Avadriel wrote:

The sleight of hand skill allows you to conceal a weapon on your body.

The skill specifies there is a bonus for loose or baggy clothing, but there are no penalties or restrictions listed for not wearing clothing.
does getting strip searched automatically allow searchers to find concealed weapons?
Conceal Held Item: [Snip] You can only attempt the check if you have a piece of clothing, another held item, or body part large enough to hide the item behind, such as a cloak. [snip]

Sadly, conceal held item is a third party application of the sleight of hand skill, and as such this could only apply in a house rules situation.


KC's List Of Increasingly Horrible Ways For Naked People To Hide Weapons:

1. Hide it in your hair.
2. Swallow it (with the blade covered).
3. Cut off your leg and get a hollow peg leg.
4. Have your weapon made of obsidian. Cast stone to flesh. Sew it to yourself somewhere they don't want to look too closely so it looks like a deformity/scar tissue (armpit is a decent candidate).
5. Drive a narrow knife into your leg so it cuts parallel to bone, then have your cleric friend heal you while ensuring the knife doesn't pop out. Let your flesh heal over it.
6. Your first thought when you saw this thread? Yeah. That.


In Robert A Heinlein's The Puppet Masters a married couple is doing target practice with guns on their private land. Since it's very secluded and it's summer, they're doing it starkers. Nonetheless, the female character (who, as per Heinlein's preferred type of character to write, is red-headed, beautiful, highly sexual, and a badass secret agent with killer martial arts skills) has two guns hidden on her, one in her hair, and the other "hidden in plain sight" according to the story, which isn't entirely clear what she means.

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If you have long hair you can hide a Karambit pretty easily. Otherwise there are some places that one probably doesn't want to store a razor sharp implement.


I'm sure the blood running down the back of his thighs would require more of a Bluff check than a Sleight of Hand check.

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Jack Harkness: (pulls a laser pistol on the two What Not to Wear robots)
Trin-E: But that is a Compact Laser Deluxe!
Zu-Zana: Where were you hiding that?
Jack: (buck naked) You really don't want to know.


Simple solution is that GM tells you when successfully hiding a weapon is unlikely. I assume that slight of hand assumes you are wearing clothes.

Verdant Wheel

+20 DC

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Another vote for it being misdirection rather than hiding it. I'd allow it.


this all assumes the person being strip searched has his hands free and able to move. IE He's the person removing the clothing. If shackled, add a penalty to the DC, anything from +5 to +20 DC depending.

A lot depends on the size and shape of the weapon and the type of search.

Needle +0 DC - Can be hid in between fingers, toes, even hair.

Small throwing knife +5 DC - Can be, mostly, hid in between fingers, toes, even hair.

Throwing Stars +10 DC - While doable, need to have a very good slight of hand check.

Dagger +20 DC - going take some very good bluff (distraction) and very good Slight of hand checks to succeed.

Then there's the people conducting the search and how paranoid they are. They'll also know about places you could hide stuff and can check those spots, increasing the DC (or give them a bonus to their perception/sense motive check) to spot what's going on.

These DC numbers are all GM call. Stuff I just tossed out as something I'd use but others might disagree with.

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Paladin of Baha-who? wrote:
In Robert A Heinlein's The Puppet Masters a married couple is doing target practice with guns on their private land. Since it's very secluded and it's summer, they're doing it starkers. Nonetheless, the female character (who, as per Heinlein's preferred type of character to write, is red-headed, beautiful, highly sexual, and a badass secret agent with killer martial arts skills) has two guns hidden on her, one in her hair, and the other "hidden in plain sight" according to the story, which isn't entirely clear what she means.

I'm guessing boobs. There's actually a holster for that, though pulling it off completely in the nude would be tricky.


HardMaple wrote:
I'm sure the blood running down the back of his thighs would require more of a Bluff check than a Sleight of Hand check.

Prestidigitation.


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