
Aaron Bitman |
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everyone wanted to be either Han Solo or Luke Skywalker when I grew up. Chewbacca and Yoda were roles assigned to less popular kids.
See now, when I was a kid, my favorite character - whether to BE or just to ADMIRE - was R2. I'm serious. He was the REAL hero of Star Wars. While Luke got distracted with things like rescuing the beautiful princess, R2 never lost sight of what was REALLY important, like delivering stolen plans to ultimate weapons, no matter who tried to stop him. And when the main characters DID get themselves into trouble, who opened doors and shut down trash compactors for them? No one even seemed to notice that he fixed the hyperdrive to save everyone's life in The Empire Strikes Back.
People say that Padme's character was nowhere in Episode 1, but at least she could give credit where credit was due!

BigDTBone |

Faelyn |

Very excited about Rogue One!!! The AT-AT scene was awwwwwwesome! I love that Disney is doing a non-Jedi themed movie. I love me some Jedi (Who doesn't?!), but I've been wanting to see something like Rogue One for a very long time...
I truly hope its less space-battle and more character driven battles, which is what it looks like thus far.

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Hama wrote:We are getting off topic, so I will leave this here and we can pick it up in PM or a different thread.BigDTBone wrote:As it turns out, a lot of Americans care about it.Or you want them to care? Unless you can provide me with a relevant statistic, I can't deem your statement as true.
Seriously? Comparing showing nonhumans as protagonists to black people not being main characters of children's books? You know, one of these two is a real issue.

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Looks great - but I saw the phrase 'Anthology' in the title. Does that means this is going to be a bunch of short films?
No, it's a single, full-lentgh film.
In addition the the main trilogy they are doing (Episodes 7, 8, and 9) there will also be a number of stand-alone movies to tell various, individual Star Wars stories. This is the first such movie. The next will be a Han Solo origin movie

thejeff |
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BigDTBone wrote:Seriously? Comparing showing nonhumans as protagonists to black people not being main characters of children's books? You know, one of these two is a real issue.Hama wrote:We are getting off topic, so I will leave this here and we can pick it up in PM or a different thread.BigDTBone wrote:As it turns out, a lot of Americans care about it.Or you want them to care? Unless you can provide me with a relevant statistic, I can't deem your statement as true.
I think the signals got crossed at some point in there - That was a response to comments about her build and the melanin content of her skin, not the alien discussion.
Context:
BigDTBone wrote:I just wish they chosen an actress other than Felicity Jones who looks exactly like Daisy Ridley. An actress of color, or one with a different body shape (or both!) would have gone a long way for me.Oh come on who cares about stuff like that? As long as she does good acting, I couldn't care less about the way she looks, is built or the melanin content in her skin.

thejeff |
Harkevich wrote:Looks great - but I saw the phrase 'Anthology' in the title. Does that means this is going to be a bunch of short films?No, it's a single, full-lentgh film.
In addition the the main trilogy they are doing (Episodes 7, 8, and 9) there will also be a number of stand-alone movies to tell various, individual Star Wars stories. This is the first such movie. The next will be a Han Solo origin movie
"Anthology" may be the series name for those stand-alone movies?
Though I didn't actually see it in the trailer. The final title screen had "A Star Wars Story".

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Harkevich wrote:Looks great - but I saw the phrase 'Anthology' in the title. Does that means this is going to be a bunch of short films?No, it's a single, full-lentgh film.
In addition the the main trilogy they are doing (Episodes 7, 8, and 9) there will also be a number of stand-alone movies to tell various, individual Star Wars stories. This is the first such movie. The next will be a Han Solo origin movie
There's also three more in development, one about Boba Fett, one about Yoda and one about what Obi-Wan was up to between Episodes III and IV. None of them are greenlit yet though.

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Hitdice |

Well, if you want me to talk seriously, I think the casting of a white female, a black male and a hispanic male in both movies is quite revealing about Disney's (or whichever casting agent's) idea of diversity. If you cast minority actors of the same race and sex in all your movies, that's a lot closer to tokenism than diversity, but saying that Daisy Ridley and Felicity Jones look exactly alike isn't any more insightful than saying that John Boyega and Forest Whitaker do.

BigNorseWolf |
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Hama wrote:As for the alien protagonist. Most people cannot relate to non-humans. It is true. And unfortunate.'Cause farm-boys who grow up to have psychic super-powers and laser swords are super-relatable. :/
I mean, except for the psychic powers and laser sword, that's totally my backstory!
Its very relatable: its the person most of the audience always wishes they were.

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They really don't look anything alike aside from being white women with brown hair.
We don't know that's a trend. Two movies aren't enough for a trend. If they keep doing it though...
Especially if that turns out to be what Boba Fett looks like under the helmet. (Yes, yes, I know about the character background. But what we'll find out is that the *real* Boba Fett has been living like a king in Patagonia for the past fifteen years....)

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Well, of the named characters from the 7 films already, do we even *have* a blonde female? Does blonde hair exist on anyone but Anakin and Luke in the entire film franchise? Well, a google search shows Obi-wan was in 2/3 of the PT, and light brown in the third, and Qui-gon could be construed as a shade of blonde, but thats like 4 total blonde humans over seven movies.
None of Rogue 1's cast is blonde.
Mon Mothma is auburn haired.
Palpatine was *light haired* in episode 1, but whether that was a blonde natural or a faded brown as he was graying is anyone's guess.
A large group shot from the gungan victory in Epi 1 shows 1 blonde unnamed female (she probably has a name, this is star wars afterall. everything on screen has a name).
All the extras on the Yavin medalling ceremony were capped or helmed.
So in the entire on-screen galaxy far-far away, there are maybe six characters, one of which is female near extra, that aren't completely in-the-background extras, who are blonde.
Ned Stark would figure out right away that Luke was Anakin's son...

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Hama wrote:Especially if that turns out to be what Boba Fett looks like under the helmet. (Yes, yes, I know about the character background. But what we'll find out is that the *real* Boba Fett has been living like a king in Patagonia for the past fifteen years....)They really don't look anything alike aside from being white women with brown hair.
We don't know that's a trend. Two movies aren't enough for a trend. If they keep doing it though...
I though the real Boba Fett got decapitated on Geonosis. Boba is just a clone of Jango without any implanted memories.

thejeff |
Well, of the named characters from the 7 films already, do we even *have* a blonde female? Does blonde hair exist on anyone but Anakin and Luke in the entire film franchise? Well, a google search shows Obi-wan was in 2/3 of the PT, and light brown in the third, and Qui-gon could be construed as a shade of blonde, but thats like 4 total blonde humans over seven movies.
None of Rogue 1's cast is blonde.
Mon Mothma is auburn haired.
Palpatine was *light haired* in episode 1, but whether that was a blonde natural or a faded brown as he was graying is anyone's guess.
A large group shot from the gungan victory in Epi 1 shows 1 blonde unnamed female (she probably has a name, this is star wars afterall. everything on screen has a name).
All the extras on the Yavin medalling ceremony were capped or helmed.
So in the entire on-screen galaxy far-far away, there are maybe six characters, one of which is female near extra, that aren't completely in-the-background extras, who are blonde.
Ned Stark would figure out right away that Luke was Anakin's son...
Of course, given that, any blonde female main character would be assumed to be related to Anakin & Luke.

GM Niles |

Not to derail, but I REALLY hope they get Temuera Morrison to play Boba Fett in the movie. I don't know how it'll work, with him being actually 50+ years old now and Boba not being all that old (ostensibly) when he died in RotJ.
I guess they could try and cast Young Boba Daniel Logan in the movie...

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John Woodford wrote:I though the real Boba Fett got decapitated on Geonosis. Boba is just a clone of Jango without any implanted memories.Hama wrote:Especially if that turns out to be what Boba Fett looks like under the helmet. (Yes, yes, I know about the character background. But what we'll find out is that the *real* Boba Fett has been living like a king in Patagonia for the past fifteen years....)They really don't look anything alike aside from being white women with brown hair.
We don't know that's a trend. Two movies aren't enough for a trend. If they keep doing it though...
I'm.....sorry?

Hitdice |

They really don't look anything alike aside from being white women with brown hair.
We don't know that's a trend. Two movies aren't enough for a trend. If they keep doing it though...
I wouldn't say it's a trend, I just think it's indicative of Hollywood's margin of acceptable-but-not-challanging-enough-to-be-offputting diversity; I also think it's important to the equation that, given the release dates, both movies were cast before they could measure they audience reaction to the cast of the first. It's a complaint movie production, not about Star Wars.

Blackvial |
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Set wrote:everyone wanted to be either Han Solo or Luke Skywalker when I grew up. Chewbacca and Yoda were roles assigned to less popular kids.Hama wrote:As for the alien protagonist. Most people cannot relate to non-humans. It is true. And unfortunate.'Cause farm-boys who grow up to have psychic super-powers and laser swords are super-relatable. :/
I mean, except for the psychic powers and laser sword, that's totally my backstory!
I always wanted to be Darth Vader

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now on topic of Rogue One, 2 questions I have
1: who was the Imperial Officer in the White Cape
2: Who was the Person in the Black clock bowing before the holographic projector
1: That was a grand admiral. So someone important. Probably the person in charge of the Death Star project before he inevitably gets murdered here and Tarkin replaces him.
2: That wasn't a holographic projector. Probably a dark side force user of some kind although I hope not.

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Blackvial wrote:now on topic of Rogue One, 2 questions I have
1: who was the Imperial Officer in the White Cape
2: Who was the Person in the Black clock bowing before the holographic projector
1: That was a grand admiral. So someone important. Probably the person in charge of the Death Star project before he inevitably gets murdered here and Tarkin replaces him.
2: That wasn't a holographic projector. Probably a dark side force user of some kind although I hope not.
Vader wouldn't wear a hooded cloak.
1. Me
2. Possibly an Imperial Inquisitor then.
Imperial Inquisitors and Grand Admirals, creations of West End Games For The Win!

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Blackvial wrote:now on topic of Rogue One, 2 questions I have
1: who was the Imperial Officer in the White Cape
2: Who was the Person in the Black clock bowing before the holographic projector
1. Baron arem heshvaun.
2. No idea.
[makes plans to fondle and wantonly make out with freehold the next time I see him]