I was trying to make an unchained summoner and his eidolon when I came came across this under the "Mount" evolution:
Does he need to have one of those subtypes AND have an appropriate form, or does he need to have one of those subtypes OR an appropriate form?
The semicolon is separating two lists. You must have a subtype from the first list and a form from the second.
Choose one from column A and one from column B. Just like a menu. :-)
/cevah
The problem with the one from each list thing here is that devils only come in biped, meaning their inclusion on the list is either in error or breaks the one from each list thing. (I'm pretty sure it is just an error)
Requiring subtypes for some of the evolutions is pretty irksome. Agathions can look like any one animal and be quadruped (so could be almost exactly a horse) but you can't ride them because reasons..... it just seems a bit counter-intuitive and unnecessarily limiting things that ought mostly be flavour.
Especially as the availability of subtypes is alignment dependant. No summoner can be lawful good and have a mount - there goes a stack of character concepts of summoners who think they are paladin-like.
It is far from Unchaining character concepts. I'm quite fine with the mechanical rebalance, but adding fluff based rules limits that don't even match the fluff was needless and awkward.
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devils only come in biped, meaning their inclusion on the list is either in error or breaks the one from each list thing. (I'm pretty sure it is just an error)
Could be an error or more likely a "here are options that may or may not exist or may be created in the future."
I'm certain it doesn't break the one from each list thing also ;-)
So, you're saying summoners can only ride daemons, demons, devils, elementals, or proteans?
That's....kinda ridiculous.
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So, you're saying summoners can only ride daemons, demons, devils, elementals, or proteans?
That's....kinda ridiculous.
You can ride eidolons even without the Mount evolution; they just aren't considered suitable mounts (which generally translates to a -5 penalty on Ride checks).
I agree it the semi-colon is an AND of the two OR lists. I would add the Aquatic type as potential mount - it just wasn't around when the summoner was introduced. But, yeah, bipeds, in general, should not make suitable mounts.
