It was mentioned in another thread but I thought it might be higher profile if it got its own thread with a specific title.
The devs specifically changed the fighter dedication (from multiclass) to only give one bump in armor type, so wizards dipping fighter would only get light armor, not medium or heavy.
But now the Paladin dedication gives all three armor types like the fighter used to. And that CHA prerequisite isn't even all that hard for sorcerers or bards or anybody who loves Resonance points.
Maybe this is meant to only bump one level like fighters?
I think they just wanted to make it a trade off of armor vs weapon proficiency. Fighter gives all simple and martial weapons but only one stage of armor. Paladin gives all armors and shields but only one weapon. Neither gives you all of both like the old fighter archetype did.
Well paladins are the "masters of armor' so it would at least make sense for them to give two bumps in armor as they should be better than fighters.
I predict a huge amount of Sorc-MCPaladin and Bard-MCPaladin with shoehorned religious elements for armor in PF2.
If 'heavy armor for one dedication feat and some stat investment' is okay, please give us that with a more generic chassis. Don't put an incredibly mechanically attractive option for multiple classes behind a huge fluff barrier they don't want.
I predict a huge amount of Sorc-MCPaladin and Bard-MCPaladin with shoehorned religious elements for armor in PF2.
If 'heavy armor for one dedication feat and some stat investment' is okay, please give us that with a more generic chassis. Don't put an incredibly mechanically attractive option for multiple classes behind a huge fluff barrier they don't want.
I'm wondering if that will be the case in the final version. I know I heard somewhere, from one of the devs (I want to say Mark? He's usually the source for a lot of these leaks), that they're working on a "Deadeye" archetype for archery, so it's possible we'll see other, less fluff-bound archetypes that fulfill the mechanical reason why people take those multiclasses.
That being said, I do wish there were a more compelling defensive option for those classes, so we don't see every sorcerer or wizard finding some way to get full plate. I don't mind that it can be done, and I think even maybe there should be cases where it's an attractive option, but I don't think it should be go to option.
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I predict a huge amount of Sorc-MCPaladin and Bard-MCPaladin with shoehorned religious elements for armor in PF2.
If 'heavy armor for one dedication feat and some stat investment' is okay, please give us that with a more generic chassis. Don't put an incredibly mechanically attractive option for multiple classes behind a huge fluff barrier they don't want.
I'm wondering if that will be the case in the final version. I know I heard somewhere, from one of the devs (I want to say Mark? He's usually the source for a lot of these leaks), that they're working on a "Deadeye" archetype for archery, so it's possible we'll see other, less fluff-bound archetypes that fulfill the mechanical reason why people take those multiclasses.
That being said, I do wish there were a more compelling defensive option for those classes, so we don't see every sorcerer or wizard finding some way to get full plate. I don't mind that it can be done, and I think even maybe there should be cases where it's an attractive option, but I don't think it should be go to option.
We aren't necessarily working on that, it was an idea; I was trying to get at what another person had posted and riff off it. That's why I sometimes have to just post "Noted, thanks!"
We aren't necessarily working on that, it was an idea; I was trying to get at what another person had posted and riff off it. That's why I sometimes have to just post "Noted, thanks!"I predict a huge amount of Sorc-MCPaladin and Bard-MCPaladin with shoehorned religious elements for armor in PF2.
If 'heavy armor for one dedication feat and some stat investment' is okay, please give us that with a more generic chassis. Don't put an incredibly mechanically attractive option for multiple classes behind a huge fluff barrier they don't want.
I'm wondering if that will be the case in the final version. I know I heard somewhere, from one of the devs (I want to say Mark? He's usually the source for a lot of these leaks), that they're working on a "Deadeye" archetype for archery, so it's possible we'll see other, less fluff-bound archetypes that fulfill the mechanical reason why people take those multiclasses.
That being said, I do wish there were a more compelling defensive option for those classes, so we don't see every sorcerer or wizard finding some way to get full plate. I don't mind that it can be done, and I think even maybe there should be cases where it's an attractive option, but I don't think it should be go to option.
As my misunderstanding. Still, if not in the CRB, I wouldn't be surprised if the APG or whatever winds up with other archetypes that get the generic chassis for heavy armor, or other such stuff.
Just due to all of the baggage of the Paladin class, it's vastly more jarring to see someone take a multiclass detour in Paladin for a purely mechanical benefit than it is to see someone do the same for fighter.