In brief, assimar are "plane-touched" humanoids, those with celestial blood somewhere in their ancestry. The Heavenborn alternate racial trait states that they are "born in the celestial realms...". With me so far?
The problem is, HOW are they born in the celestial realms? A creature who has an angelic mother, say, who has a tryst with a mortal and births it on her home plane would be a half-celestial, not an aasimar (their celestial lineage is further dilute).
I can't come up with a reasonable scenario that produces a heavenborn aasimar...
Mom was a half-celestial who had a romance with a mortal.
rinse and repeat until bloodline in diluted enough to make an Aasimar.
As per RAW, "humanoid + celestial = aasimar, non-humanoid + celestial = half-celestial".
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That's not the RAW at all. Half-celestial can be applied to "any living, corporeal creature with an intelligence score of 4 or more." Aasimars have either a celestial ancestor (grandparent or further back) or have some other celestial influence (born near a planar 'weak spot', born on a celestial plane, blessed in the womb by a celestial etc.)
That's not the RAW at all. Half-celestial can be applied to "any living, corporeal creature with an intelligence score of 4 or more." Aasimars have either a celestial ancestor (grandparent or further back) or have some other celestial influence (born near a planar 'weak spot', born on a celestial plane, blessed in the womb by a celestial etc.)
It's said in Blood of Angels.
That's not the RAW at all. Half-celestial can be applied to "any living, corporeal creature with an intelligence score of 4 or more." Aasimars have either a celestial ancestor (grandparent or further back) or have some other celestial influence (born near a planar 'weak spot', born on a celestial plane, blessed in the womb by a celestial etc.)It's said in Blood of Angels.
If that is legitimately what it says in Blood of Angels (And I doubt it, as it goes against almost fifteen years of Half-Celestial = Celestial + Mortal parent), then whomever wrote it was flat-out wrong.
Until Blood of Angels came out, Half-Celestials worked the exact same way as they did in 3.5, because there were no other rules for them. A Celestial being is intimate with a non-Celestial being, and a Half-Celestial is born.
I find the idea of an Aasimar being the first generation offspring of a Solar and a mortal woman while the offspring of a celestial dog and a mortal dog being a Half-Celestial a little.... dumb.
far as i understand it, the diredt ofspring of an ousider with a mortal can make a half whatever OR a asimar/tiefling/whatever. one is not 100% garenteed to be a half whatever
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In brief, assimar are "plane-touched" humanoids, those with celestial blood somewhere in their ancestry. The Heavenborn alternate racial trait states that they are "born in the celestial realms...". With me so far?
The problem is, HOW are they born in the celestial realms? A creature who has an angelic mother, say, who has a tryst with a mortal and births it on her home plane would be a half-celestial, not an aasimar (their celestial lineage is further dilute).
I can't come up with a reasonable scenario that produces a heavenborn aasimar...
Options could include;
a pregnant humanoid ending up giving birth on a celestial plane, and her child being 'tainted' by the prevailing celestial energies (despite *both* parents being non-celestials).
the celestial parent was 'thin-blooded' or some circumstance resulted in the child being born 'taking after' their mortal parent, resulting in an aasimar child, and not a half-celestial, just as some mortal children 'take after' one parent more than the other.
the child has no parents, mortal or celestial, having sprouted from an enormous flower in some celestial garden of verdant soul quintessence, a newborn aasimar baby adopted by the keepers of this serene pool of giant lotus flowers (this not being a common occurrence, but hardly unknown in this gathering place of life and possibility), and sent down to the mortal realms to find its own destiny when it became old enough to 'place' with some mortal foster parents.
Thanks- you all have provided some great insight that I had not explored-especially at the wee hour this question vexed me!
That's not the RAW at all. Half-celestial can be applied to "any living, corporeal creature with an intelligence score of 4 or more." Aasimars have either a celestial ancestor (grandparent or further back) or have some other celestial influence (born near a planar 'weak spot', born on a celestial plane, blessed in the womb by a celestial etc.)It's said in Blood of Angels.
Blood of Angels actually says that half celestials are direct children of a celestial (as Good Outsider) and another creature, while Aasimars have a more distant celestial ancestry (if they have a Celestial ancestor at all, as Aasimars can be born of planar infuelnce alone). There's even a sidebar about non-human aasimars