My players are currently running Rise of the Runelords for the first time. I noticed in the Jade Reagent that there are not only connections to RotRL but "We Be Goblins" also. So i am hesitant in my picking the next adventure path.
Are the Adventure Paths a linear story line? Should i simply go in order according to release date? Do all the paths take place at the same time?
Anyway, if things are not linear, then does any one have a suggestion for the next path we should take?
P.S. Where in this time line does the "We Be Goblins Too!" take place?
Each path stands alone.
The next path you choose should be entirely a result of what you and your players wish to play. You'll probably retire your existing high-level party (presuming they survive the AP). Most of the individual AP forums give some decent advice on continuing campaigns, working in modules or converting materials.
Paizo's stance thus far has been that every AP is "about to happen" when they write setting info. There have been a few exceptions, like Lost Cities of Golarion, but by and large you can expect that there will be no spoilers in any of the published materials.
Though there will sometimes be references to date in the APs, this is actually a function of when the AP was published, and it shouldn't affect the AP whatsoever.
When you're finished with Runelords, if Jade Regent is your cup of tea, you could play We Be Goblins with no problem at all.
I'm running RotRL and currently playing in what I suspect is a modified version of Jade Regent.
Judging purely by my starting feats, Jade Regent takes place some time after RotRL, perhaps a couple of years. Old lady Mvashti is dead, and I've got a "thing" with her daughter. Ergo, time has passed.
Since Jade Regent also starts PCs at 1st level, it's certainly not the same PCs who finished RotRL at, what, 16th or 17th?
The only complication with running Jade Regent after RotRL might be if you killed off key NPCs. Aside from that, player familiarity with Sandpoint could only be a bonus for immersion in the start of Jade Regent.
No idea about the goblin link.
they don't occur on the same world either.
hmmm?
Shattered Star is pretty much the only AP which explicitly takes place after one or more of the other APs, specifically Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, and Second Darkness, and the first page of the first book details the assumptions made about how those APs were resolved.
So yeah. Aside from that one, single AP, there's no canon 'order' for the APs, and you can run them in any order you like. Heck, you could even, with some careful improvisation, go ahead and run Shattered Star -before- Rise of the Runelords and the others, but it would take a lot of extra work because you'd be invalidating so many core assumptions.
The Adventure Paths are completely separate and independent storylines. None of them actually occur in canon, and since they're all major world changers, they don't occur on the same world either.
We Be Goblins Too! is only a sequel to the original We Be Goblins module. It really doesn't have anything to do with any of the APs. That module is an optional prequel to Jade Regents only in the sense that it takes place near Sandpoint, which is where Jade Regent starts. it' more like an optional window dressing than needed inclusion.
Remember that the idea i that each adventure path features a completely different group of heroes since you start all of them at first level.
'We be goblins!' is indeed a precursor for Jade Regent, however, it is definitely AFTER RotRL. The chief of the Licktoad tribes references the goblin raid on Sandpoint. This indicates that the Jade Regent takes palce AFTER RotRL. Due to this, i assumed 'We be goblins too!' may take place before or after a certain AP also. There are timelines here, they may be subtle, but they're there. I know there is a calendar system within Golarion, so the question is; what is the AP timeline?
Furthermore, spoilers are definitely a concern, however, since the players won't be using the same characters it isn't an issue moving back and forth through time. Although, i do prefer the APs to move along fluidly and naturally.
hmmm?they don't occur on the same world either.
Yes, this i was confused about also. I suppose they could be alternate realities, but the world is Golarion, no?
That chronology that you give assumes the goblins attack Sandpoint only once.
That chronology that you give assumes the goblins attack Sandpoint only once.
" Once, other goblins tried to burn Sandpoint down, and they would
have been legends if they had succeeded. ""Once"
I see your point but i think its clear Paizo sets these in a certain order.
That chronology that you give assumes the goblins attack Sandpoint only once." Once, other goblins tried to burn Sandpoint down, and they would
have been legends if they had succeeded. ""Once"
I see your point but i think its clear Paizo sets these in a certain order.
Some things are kinda in order, but mostly not. Most adventure paths are not even remotely related to one another.
In regards to what LazarX said, perhaps he is referring to
Yes, this i was confused about also. I suppose they could be alternate realities, but the world is Golarion, no?hmmm?they don't occur on the same world either.
Yes but it is a imaginary World and stuff you played last week dosent need to have happend in the next campaign.
No need to do Marvel mind gymnastics and create alternate realities.
Jade Regent and Rise of the Runelords have a problem that the 4 major NPCs are still low level (likely 1st level) in Jade Regent, after all that happened in Rise of the Runelords (you wouldn't necessarily expect them to level up as much as the RotL PCs, but they should still get something). If you take the suggestion of having 1 or more of them (especially Koya, who is supposed to be 60 years old as a Human, or Shalelu, who is supposed to be an awesome Ranger) actually be a PC, this becomes even more glaring. Cool idea, but some major continuity clashes.
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I've played through RotRL and book 1 of Shattered Star. They overlap nicely; SS is similar enough to make it seem relevant and connected to the RotRL story, but they're different enough that you can be sure that you're doing something very new.
You can make the timeline between the adventures run close enough together that the offspring of your RotRL group are running through SS. My SS character is the son of my friend's Rogue from our RotRL party. It's a blast.