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I am in the process of building a Warpriest of Asmodeus for society play. For flavor reasons, I would really like to use torches as my focused weapon.
There are, however, a few obvious problems.
1) It is improvised, so I'll need to take a feat. Not a huge deal, I'm going human. But, can you Weapon Focus items that are not designed as weapons?
2) Can one buy a MW torch, and subsequently enchant it?
3) Once lit, the torch will presumably burn itself out and be consumed. I could use an everburning torch instead, but then I'm even more worried about enchantment concerns down the line.
Does anyone have advice/relevant rulings on these concerns? Are there other concerns I haven't thought of?
This is probably a good idea, unless that's the feat you were talking about.
It'd be great if you could wield an everburning torch as an enchanted light mace, both for mechanics and flavor, but I don't think PFS will be too forgiving on the rules involved. Good luck.
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This is probably a good idea, unless that's the feat you were talking about.
It'd be great if you could wield an everburning torch as an enchanted light mace, both for mechanics and flavor, but I don't think PFS will be too forgiving on the rules involved. Good luck.
Actually, I was thinking there was a general 'you can use improvised weapons at no penalty' feat. That is even nicer.
EDIT:
Also, if I can get a MW or enchanted torch (or even a mace) I can have continual flame cast on it, then I don't have to worry.
Catch Off-Guard is the feat you're thinking of.
A continual flame spell would give you the look of a torch, but won't give you the fire damage of one (torches deal 1 point of fire damage). Continual flame spells don't give off heat.
Which is more important, the look of a torch or the flame damage of one?
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A continual flame spell would give you the look of a torch, but won't give you the fire damage of one (torches deal 1 point of fire damage). Continual flame spells don't give off heat.
Which is more important, the look of a torch or the flame damage of one?
The look. 1 point of fire damage doesn't thrill me, I just want to look really Asmodean.
So, I still don't have a clear answer, can MW and enchanted versions of torches be purchased? If not, does having a feat allowing me to treat it as within a weapon category change things?
Torches aren't weapons, though they can be used like one (improvised weapon). As such, they most likely could not be made masterwork (which is just a really well made weapon). And if they can't be masterwork, they can't be enchanted.
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Torches aren't weapons, though they can be used like one (improvised weapon). As such, they most likely could not be made masterwork (which is just a really well made weapon). And if they can't be masterwork, they can't be enchanted.
Shame, that. I'll probably go with maces then, and get continual flame cast on it as soon as possible.
There's also this:
Light Generation: Fully 30% of magic weapons shed light equivalent to a light spell. These glowing weapons are quite obviously magical. Such a weapon can't be concealed when drawn, nor can its light be shut off. Some of the specific weapons detailed below always or never glow, as defined in their descriptions.
You could just get a normal magical mace and get it to glow like a flame.
There is also a hugely awesome trait, Rough and Ready, that lets you not take the improvised weapon penalty and gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls for one improvised weapon that you have at least one rank in Craft or Profession for. (craft [torch] or profession [torchbearer] can be your day job)
It is hugely awesome for any improvised weapon build.
Take that feat, Fire Hand and Burn! Burn! Burn!. You get +2 to hit and damage is 1d2 dam + (1d4+1) fire.
Another option for the OP is the battle poi. Two torches attached by a chain! Get the exotic weapon proficiency and you can two weapon fight for free! And as an actual weapon, you avoid all the improvised weapon issues.
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There is also a hugely awesome trait, Rough and Ready, that lets you not take the improvised weapon penalty and gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls for one improvised weapon that you have at least one rank in Craft or Profession for. (craft [torch] or profession [torchbearer] can be your day job)
It is hugely awesome for any improvised weapon build.Take that feat, Fire Hand and Burn! Burn! Burn!. You get +2 to hit and damage is 1d2 dam + (1d4+1) fire.
Another option for the OP is the battle poi. Two torches attached by a chain! Get the exotic weapon proficiency and you can two weapon fight for free! And as an actual weapon, you avoid all the improvised weapon issues.
Battle Poi it is! As it deals energy damage, does this get through DR?
I'll need a backup weapon for fire resistance/immunity, of course. I'll probably go with my Alchemist Silver spade/Cold-Iron blade Monk's Spade.
EDIT: Just realized, the Fire blessing actually stacks with the battle poi. I'll probably start battles by lighting the poi with this ability. Oh man, I'm getting excited about this character.
you can get masterwork clubs... and set them on fire!
Or basically anything with 'flaming' or 'flaming burst' as a magical property. I'm pretty sure Flaming mace or club would give you the effect you're looking for. :)
There is also a hugely awesome trait, Rough and Ready, that lets you not take the improvised weapon penalty and gain a +1 bonus to attack rolls for one improvised weapon that you have at least one rank in Craft or Profession for. (craft [torch] or profession [torchbearer] can be your day job)
It is hugely awesome for any improvised weapon build.Take that feat, Fire Hand and Burn! Burn! Burn!. You get +2 to hit and damage is 1d2 dam + (1d4+1) fire.
Another option for the OP is the battle poi. Two torches attached by a chain! Get the exotic weapon proficiency and you can two weapon fight for free! And as an actual weapon, you avoid all the improvised weapon issues.
Battle Poi it is! As it deals energy damage, does this get through DR?
I'll need a backup weapon for fire resistance/immunity, of course. I'll probably go with my Alchemist Silver spade/Cold-Iron blade Monk's Spade.
Yes, no DR just fire resistance.
If this wasn't PFS, I'd suggest Weapon Versatility and that could allow you to do bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing damage with your poi. It'd be a feat that might encounter table variance though, so it might be best to avoid it.
you can get masterwork clubs... and set them on fire!
Or basically anything with 'flaming' or 'flaming burst' as a magical property. I'm pretty sure Flaming mace or club would give you the effect you're looking for. :)
Flaming battle poi! :)
The favored weapon of Asmodeus is the heavy mace. The Fire blessing allows one to make a weapon basically flaming for 1 minute at a time. When you can afford it, get a +1 flaming heavy mace. That about does what you want.
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The favored weapon of Asmodeus is the heavy mace. The Fire blessing allows one to make a weapon basically flaming for 1 minute at a time. When you can afford it, get a +1 flaming heavy mace. That about does what you want.
I think Battle Poi wins on sheer coolness factor. I like using weapons that don't see much play anyhow, like my Brawler of the Monk's Spade.