Slayer in heavy armor?


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Sovereign Court

If a slayer were to wear heavy armor - would he still be able to use a ranger combat style feat? The wording is - "...gains a combat feat from the first feat list of that style." since it says that he gains the feat, and not the whole style - would the requirement of wearing medium/light armor apply?

I realize that the slayer doesn't come with heavy armor proficiency, but it seems like the feat would be a good investment - or a 1 level dip wouldn't be all bad either for that matter.

(I think this might be a case where RAW & RAI aren't the same.)


Actually the whole wording is:

Quote:
Ranger Combat Style (Ex): The slayer selects a ranger combat style (such as archery or two-weapon combat) and gains a combat feat from the first feat list of that style. He can choose feats from his selected combat style, even if he does not have the normal prerequisites. At 6th level, he may select this talent again and add the 6th-level ranger combat feats from his chosen style to the list. At 10th level, he may select this talent again and add the 10th-level ranger combat feats from his chosen style to the list.

He gains the style and as such the limitstions as well as the feat. So no ranger combt tyle in heavy armor.

Sczarni

During the ACG playtest Jason Bulmahn clarified that heavy armor interferes with the Slayer just as much as the Ranger.

Sovereign Court

Nefreet wrote:
During the ACG playtest Jason Bulmahn clarified that heavy armor interferes with the Slayer just as much as the Ranger.

Fair enough. Still probably worth the proficiency to get mithril full-plate.

Dark Archive

Mithral full plate still counts as heavy armor as far af rangers or anyone else not actually proficient in heavy armor. Look at the mithral full text.


No, it counts as one category lighter for anything but proficiency.
That's the point of that part.

Mithral plate would not interfere with the feats.


The mithral armor does not count as heavy armor for the purpose of limiting this class feature. As an example a barbarian can wear mithral fullplate and not lose his speed bonus because it counts as medium armor. Another example is a bard using mithral armor and it not interfering with his spellcasting.

It only counts for purpose of being proficient. For anything else it counts as the lighter category of armor.

Dark Archive

If you are right and you wear mithral full plate as a ranger, you take the huge armor check penalty to your attack rolls and skills involving movement for not being proficient in heavy armor. Though someone did say they may take the heavy proficiency feat.


Raymond Lambert wrote:

If you are right and you wear mithral full plate as a ranger, you take the huge armor check penalty to your attack rolls and skills involving movement for not being proficient in heavy armor. Though someone did say they may take the heavy proficiency feat.

That is correct you would take the nonproficiency penalties, and you could get rid of those by actually taking the feat.

Sczarni

There are a couple other effects out there that still aren't modified by Mithral armor, though, such as the Hosteling and Brawling armor enchantments.

As in, you couldn't enchant a Mithral Breastplate with Brawling, and a suit of Mithral Full Plate with Hosteling would still allow you to store one animal up to a size category larger than you.


He does mention a level dip (perhaps in fighter for all the proficiencies). That way no penalties.

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