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So, I was glancing through the Ranged Tactics Toolbox when I came across the Juggler archetype. Their level 2 ability particularly caught my eye:
Combat Juggling: At 2nd level, a juggler can hold and wield (in other words, “juggle”) up to three items or weapons in his hands. The juggler must be able to hold and wield an object in one hand in order to juggle it.
. . . As long as he is juggling fewer than three objects, the juggler is considered to have a free hand (for the purposes of drawing a weapon, using somatic components, using Deflect Arrows, and so on) . . .
It got even more interesting when I recalled the Firearm reloading rules.
Firearm Reloading: You need at least one hand free to load one-handed and two-handed firearms.
Is Revolver Ocelot a thing for anyone who does a 2 Bard dip now?
It depends on whether or not you would consider it covered by "and so on".
Even if the answer is yes, most people aren't going to like it.
Most people don't really want the return of the dual pistol wielding gunslinger.
Yup. It's an interesting alternative to Gun Twirling.
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It depends on whether or not you would consider it covered by "and so on".
Even if the answer is yes, most people aren't going to like it.
Most people don't really want the return of the dual pistol wielding gunslinger.
The dual-pistol-wielding gunslinger never left.
Well, there's already a feat for it - I forget the name, but basically allows you to sheathe as a free action if you have Quick Draw - but some people might find a 2 level bard archetype dip easier than a 2 feat dip.
The dual-pistol-wielding gunslinger never left.It depends on whether or not you would consider it covered by "and so on".
Even if the answer is yes, most people aren't going to like it.
Most people don't really want the return of the dual pistol wielding gunslinger.
Eh, it was made more difficult in that it required levels in alchemist for the extra arm or being a tiefling for the tail. Not sure if there were other methods.
So, to go back to the original question, this would actually work?
If I only juggle two pistols, I can keep one hand free. Assuming that one hand free is also the one hand free I need to reload a gun I can reload and juggle at the same time.
If I have rapid reload and alchemical cartridges I can reload as a free action.
Therefore, I can juggle two pistols, and using my free hand I can reload them both as two free actions.
If I then have Two Weapon Fighting, I can fire both guns as part of one full round attack?
By doing this I can now fire 2 guns every round?
Come on, he even mentions Gun Twirling in his previous post.
In Claxon's defense, it's a bit obscure.
Point is, if folks want to do it, there are plenty of ways to do it, not least of which is hitting level 12-ish and crafting a couple of magic guns with infinite ammo.
So, to go back to the original question, this would actually work?
If I only juggle two pistols, I can keep one hand free. Assuming that one hand free is also the one hand free I need to reload a gun I can reload and juggle at the same time.
If I have rapid reload and alchemical cartridges I can reload as a free action.
Therefore, I can juggle two pistols, and using my free hand I can reload them both as two free actions.
If I then have Two Weapon Fighting, I can fire both guns as part of one full round attack?
By doing this I can now fire 2 guns every round?
Yup, at the usual penalties if you get any extra attacks. Remember that guns are not light weapons.
Maybe. I'm not familiar with the giant book.
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Its a nice dip for all dual weilders who reload, its specially important for bolt ace since gunslingers already had gun twirling.
My favorite option for two-weapon fighting with guns is the Feral Gnasher barbarian archetype.
This lets you both drop and pick up your guns as free actions.
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Holy mother of god, how i havent seen this before. This makes potentially a much better dip than alchemist or juggler for gunslingers since you dont lose even one point of BAB. Really good finding.