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Barbarian (Urban Barbarian archetype)
What class are you primarily using as an archer that you are dipping?
Barbarian (Urban Barbarian archetype)
This, though two levels will give you Reckless Abandon as well. You can even stack Invulnerable Rager for a nice little bit of DR 1/-.
Sorc- gains huge wand list, buy a quicken meta magic rod for your truestrike spells... You also cen say grab a hawk familiar for a net +5 to perception
Rogue for the +1d6
+2 all-purpose damage (from controlled rage) is way better than +3.5 damage during the surprise round.
Playing Devil's advocate you could go 1 level rogue to simply 1/2 your range penalties with the sniper archetype.
Yeah, ranged sneak attack is incredibly difficult to pull off since you can't flank. You must also be within 30ft, and that is something most archer builds try to avoid.
Forget dex and pump up your wisdom. Get 3rd level Zen Archer (monk). You won't need to take rapid shot or the like so you can pick up other feats to benefit from. You're welcome
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- Brawler to give you that flexible feat, and improved unarmed strike so you can threaten squared in the tiny chamlnce of needing to do so. Plus d10 HD and 1 BAB.
- Fighter for the bonus feat
- Summoner for Summon Emergency Meat Wall and a surprisingly effective skill based Eidolon to scout or even fill in a Knowledge skill that the party is missing.
Really it depends on what you call "the best" and what classes you already have.
Sorry, I had not been to the thread in a while and I see that some were asking me what the dip is for.
I am thinking more in terms of a 1 level dip for a class that is not full BAB and wants to go archery (let's say investigator, bard, etc..).
Thanks, I had not got back to the thread because I did not anticipate so many responses. I appreciate it, however.
Well, a 1 level dip into Transmuter Wizard will give you a permanent +1 to Dex, +2 to Will saves, the ability to use scrolls and wands (everything from Cat's Grace to Gravity Bow to Vanish), the ability to craft scrolls and it will give you the opportunity to take a familiar. Can you think of any uses for +4 Initiative and a free Alertness feat?
I've seen otherwise full martial characters get a LOT of mileage out of a 1 level Wizard dip.
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Forget dex and pump up your wisdom. Get 3rd level Zen Archer (monk). You won't need to take rapid shot or the like so you can pick up other feats to benefit from. You're welcome
If you are only taking 3 levels of Zen Archer, you still want Rapid Shot & Manyshot. Flurry will only give you one extra attack, while Rapid/Many gives you two.
You still haven't mentioned what class you already have.
this is a thought experiment and not an actual build.
I am thinking more in terms of a 1 level dip for a class that is not full BAB and wants to go archery (let's say investigator, bard, etc..).
so the best dip for an archer when your base class is "ANY" non-full BAB class. so yeah, kinda makes it hard to suggest because the answer comes down to, "what are you wanting from the dip?"
Nobody mentioned Divine Hunter Paladin. You get Precise Shot for free at first level as well as better HD, a Smite a day, Detect Evil, and Armor if you want it. Although, if you dip Paladin, I say it's better to take 2 levels for Divine Grace as long as you don't plan to dump CHA (which would also be good for the Sleuth Investigator archetype).