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Ask your DM, then follow the rules in the Lich Template on the off chance he says yes.
Wizards can labor for *years* trying to pefect the ritual that will grant them access to lichdom. There are no shortcuts, and many false trails, since the slightest error can yield catastrophic results.
If you think you have a fast track to lichdom, then it is doubtlessly flawed.
AFAIK, there is no specific method outlined in any Paizo product. It's generally reserved for NPCs, so a PC trying to become a lich is just asking for the DM to twist things round and give you a result far short of what you were hoping for.
In other words, it's probably an elaborate form of character suicide more than anything else.
AFAIK, clerics don't generally become liches. And why your DM might want to cater to the whims of an evil PC is beyond me. YMMV.
Or... stay alive. Use magical means to extent your lifespan. Multiple methods exist, and it is very, very rare for a DM to have so much time pass that you really risk dying of old age. You'll be more powerful as a living mage than as a dead one, and there are many ways to give your character the "undead feel".
Alternatively... become the DM and throw your lich at the players. Watch how your undead "life expectancy" dwindles faced with a determined bunch of adventurers. <g>
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Feels like it is worth mentioning.
You are a cleric, yes?
NONE of the non evil gods would let you get far enough down this path to even consider lichdom.
Even among the evil gods, only one is likely to allow you to do it. (the goddess of the undead, Urgathoa)
Note you need that spell casting power they give you to reach lichdom,, something that will be yanked out from under you.
Where do you get this idea from? Why do you think the Evil gods would care one iota whether you turned yourself into a Lich or not?
Hell, the example Lich from Undead Revisited is a Cleric of Orcus.
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Feels like it is worth mentioning.
You are a cleric, yes?
NONE of the non evil gods would let you get far enough down this path to even consider lichdom.
Even among the evil gods, only one is likely to allow you to do it. (the goddess of the undead, Urgathoa)
Note you need that spell casting power they give you to reach lichdom,, something that will be yanked out from under you.
Where do you get this idea from? Why do you think the Evil gods would care one iota whether you turned yourself into a Lich or not?
Hell, the example Lich from Undead Revisited is a Cleric of Orcus.
The fact that we have a goddess of the undead, whose principle followers are vampires and lichs.
How many greedy evil gods do you think like sharing with their evil peers?
It is all fluff mind you, no where to my knowledge does it say a cleric of anyone(who is not good) could not become a lich.
BTW, do not have Undead Revisited, but I just looked up Orcus. Seems he is a DEMON LORD, also known as the PRINCE OF THE UNDEAD. Seems his area of expertise is undead.
There is no "sharing" involved. There's a whole cult (with it's own Prestige Class!) devoted to becoming undead (mostly Liches and Vampires), that doesn't really have a limitation on membership either.
It's just an arbitrary fluff restriction you made up, considering there's nothing in the lore or rules prohibiting it. It's another way for their Clerics to gain power, why would any evil god object?
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Deities are not limited by their sphere. There are undead servants of nearly every god, Demon Lord, and Devil in the book (just play the APs some time).
Asmodeus is quite aware that someone who lives forever and has an insatiable thirst for death is likely to bring him more souls in the ong run.
Zon-Kuthon knows well that immortality doesn't preclude pain.
Norgorber gives zero f+&~s as long as you continue to do works in his name, and root out more secrets for him.
Rovagug doesn't care about ANYTHING. All of his worshipers are insane.
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How about this then, is an archer still an archer if he stops using a bow?
Can you really call yourself an assassin cleric of Norgorber if you stop doing assassinations and start using undead 90% of the time.
Why would you stop assassinating people just because you're a lich? Being undead doesn't mean you use necromancy exclusively in battle or otherwise.
Hel, Bards can be Lichs. They certainly aren't raising any undead hordes.
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How about this then, is an archer still an archer if he stops using a bow?
Can you really call yourself an assassin cleric of Norgorber if you stop doing assassinations and start using undead 90% of the time.
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Why would you stop doing assassinations?
Hell, you'd be BETTER at it. Harder (if not impossible) to truly kill, paralyze people with a touch, and emit a presence so frightening that most normal people will be unable to fight back.
And then you take their corpse and reanimate it to kill more people.
It's a win-win.
Necromancers are really good at killing people. Lich necromancers even more so.
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How about this then, is an archer still an archer if he stops using a bow?
Can you really call yourself an assassin cleric of Norgorber if you stop doing assassinations and start using undead 90% of the time.
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Why would you stop doing assassinations?
Hell, you'd be BETTER at it. Harder (if not impossible) to truly kill, paralyze people with a touch, and emit a presence so frightening that most normal people will be unable to fight back.
And then you take their corpse and reanimate it to kill more people.
It's a win-win.
Necromancers are really good at killing people. Lich necromancers even more so.
Not to mention the racial bonus to stealth, perception and sense motive and the availability of those 3 being class skills as well as Disguise and a few others. :D
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Pretty sure Way of the Wicked 3pp adventure path covers the rules for this....
Found it. From book 4: "Are vampire and lich PCs permitted in the “Way of the Wicked”? The short answer – yes, absolutely. With Prince Gaius Vestromo (in Book Three) and The Nameless Tyrant (in Act Three above), PCs have clear routes towards gaining those templates."
So you'd probably have to get books 3 and 4, then you could do it. :)
Yes, Prince Gaius was very kind.
Unfortunately I flubbed a Fort save and became a Nosferatu...a curse which I quickly realized was a blessing.