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Does this FAQ apply to the Advanced Class Guide as well?
Short Summary: There has been a lot of hubbub going on about certain features stacking or not stacking between normal classes and advanced classes from the advanced class guide, who's parent classes are unrelated;
ie 1. Flurry of Blows from Sacred Fist and Master of Many Styles Monk Levels for the purpose of determining the growth and overall strength of Flurry of Blows.
2. Whether or not Sacred Fist even gets Flurry of Blows, when mixed with Master of Many Styles(which gives up Flurry of Blows).
3. Zen Archer + Sacred Fist and how Flurry of Blows is calculated
4. Etc(feel free to contribute to the list so that I may edit it in if possible... I don't know all of them!)
It's a little confusing to me and concerning, as it does not reference the Advanced Class Guide, nor abilities relating to the Advanced Class Guide. It was also created before the Advanced Class Guide was created. Can we also apply this FAQ to the ACG? It makes me wonder why they even put the Parent Classes clause in when they could have just gone by this.
2 is easy. Archetypes replace abilities only for the class you take the archetype for. It has no impact on abilities from other classes. If you gain an ability from another source you gain that ability normally.
The Parent Classes is a vestige from the playtest. You should pretend it's not there.
Sacred Fist doesn't give up Flurry of Blows if another class archetype it gets gives it up. That's like saying my Sczarni Swindler Rogue/Barbarian loses her Barbarian Uncanny Dodge because my Rogue did.
Sacred Fist levels don't stack with Monk levels except in the areas expressly stated: Unarmed Damage and Style Feat qualification.
YES!! The FAQ is clarifying a rule, rules apply to all material. Even though they then clarify channel energy they use the word "Therefore." Which means they laid out the rule and then said, because of the rule it's ruled as this.
The wording is the same as a cleric for channel energy, but they don't stack.
ABILITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO CHANNEL:
rage - A viking's rage
flurry - WP or Brawler
bardic singing - Evangelist or Brawler
Unarmed strike damage - ninja:Unarmed Combat Mastery (Now this one does say it stacks unlike the others)
Even the armor training thing doesn't combine levels for meeting the level you gain the training, only the training stacks because it's the effects, and when they said, "Can move faster in medium/heavy armor" what it means is, they can move faster in 1 category heavier armor. Thus when you get it from both the abilities stack and gives you the moving in heavy.
They put the parent classes clause in to make sure you know that there will be redundant abilities. Also because the playtest had it one way and they wanted to be clear they had reversed that rule. And even with that line there's been people saying that brawler and monk damage stack.
The Parent Classes is a vestige from the playtest. You should pretend it's not there.
Sacred Fist doesn't give up Flurry of Blows if another class archetype it gets gives it up. That's like saying my Sczarni Swindler Rogue/Barbarian loses her Barbarian Uncanny Dodge because my Rogue did.
Sacred Fist levels don't stack with Monk levels except in the areas expressly stated: Unarmed Damage and Style Feat qualification.
SF levels don't stack with Monk levels for Unarmed Damage or Style Feat qualification. They don't expressly say they stack, and so like Channel Energy they don't stack but have two separate pools/effects.
SF levels don't stack with Monk levels for Unarmed Damage or Style Feat qualification. They don't expressly say they stack, and so like Channel Energy they don't stack but have two separate pools/effects.The Parent Classes is a vestige from the playtest. You should pretend it's not there.
Sacred Fist doesn't give up Flurry of Blows if another class archetype it gets gives it up. That's like saying my Sczarni Swindler Rogue/Barbarian loses her Barbarian Uncanny Dodge because my Rogue did.
Sacred Fist levels don't stack with Monk levels except in the areas expressly stated: Unarmed Damage and Style Feat qualification.
He uses his warpriest levels as monk levels for determining the amount of damage dealt with an unarmed strike.
Warpriest levels as monk levels for determining unarmed strike damage. If you have monk levels, they would add together. Because they are all "monk levels".
He uses his warpriest levels as monk levels for the purposes of meeting the feat's prerequisites
His warpriest levels count as monk levels for meeting bonus style feat prerequsites. If he also had monk levels, those would add together, as they are all "monk levels".
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The difference between Unarmed Damage and Bonus Style Feats and Channel Energy is that it says the WP uses his levels "as monk levels". Channel Energy says the Paladin "uses her level as her effective cleric level".
It's different than being outright used "as" cleric levels.
At 4th level, a viking gains the rage ability as the barbarian class feature, but her barbarian level is considered to be her fighter level –3.
So you're saying that a viking levels stack with actual barbarian levels to determine which rage powers you can select and how they work? Since there's no effective?
Also a Hospitaler paladin channel stacks with cleric now
"When a hospitaler reaches 4th level, she gains the ability to channel positive energy as a cleric equal to her paladin level –3."
Along with Arcane healer bards
"At 2nd level, an arcane healer gains the ability to channel positive energy as a cleric of one level lower than his level."
An inquisitor levels stack with Alchemist levels for discoveries
"using his investigator level as his alchemist level to determine if he qualifies."
Since those are AS and not EFFECTIVE