Question about spells and saving throws? ROTRL

[Ceremony]

Hey guys,

Starting rise of the runelords. Im GMing and have some questions about spells. I see that goblin warchanters can cast "Hideous Laughter" that has a "Negate Effect" will save that the player can make.

How do I calculate that save... what does the player have to roll and how? How do I calculate that. I dont see any bonuses for casting or anything on this goblin. Thanks!

[Zhayne]

Standard formula: 10+ Spell Level + Ability Modifier for whatever class they are.

[Nicos]

I have not the AP, but generally the DC for that kind of things are listed in the stats for the mosnters.

[Iorthol]

Zhayne got it right.

In your case, Warchanters are Bards, making them Charisma based spellcasters.

So add 10 + the goblin's Charisma + 1 (Because hideous laughter is a 1st level bard spell)

[Ceremony]

Iorthol wrote:

Zhayne got it right.

In your case, Warchanters are Bards, making them Charisma based spellcasters.

So add 10 + the goblin's Charisma + 1 (Because hideous laughter is a 1st level bard spell)

The goblins entire charisma or charisma modifier?

[Nicos]

charisma modifier.

[kinevon]

Just as an FYI, for the first time they give the Goblin Warchanter's stat block, it does list the DC for all her spells, under Spells Known.

Hideous Laughter:

For the warchanter, the DC listed is 12.
From the stat block, on page 17:
1st (2/day)—cure light wounds, hideous laughter (DC 12)

[Ceremony]

kinevon wrote:

Just as an FYI, for the first time they give the Goblin Warchanter's stat block, it does list the DC for all her spells, under Spells Known.

** spoiler omitted **

Noticed that after my post! :) <-- noob!

Thanks!