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Hi, i have a few questions about the spell Divine trident:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/divine-trident

-1- Is it possible to use the trident with power attack ?

-2- Since the trident is made of lighting, can i use weapon finesse with it ?

-3- Can the trident be the target of warpriest divine power or other weapon buffs ?

-4- Since it's made of electricity and it is subject to SR, does it goes through DRs ?

-5- Can it be made permanent by the permancency spell ?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/permanency

-6- Can i use the fervor warpriest ability to swift cast the divine trident ?

-7- Can i use the fervor warpriest ability to swift cast an empower spell divine trident ?

Thank you for your answers.


1 - I think you technically can power attack with it, but that line about strength modifier not applying makes me want to say no.

2 - I don't think tridents are finessable.

3 - I guess you can buff it like any other weapon, not too sure.

4 - It's not doing weapon damage, so no, it's damage is not affected by DR.

5 - Any targets of Permanency not on the list provided are up to the DM as far as I know.

6 - Probably?

Sovereign Court

1. Sure why not.
2. no.
3. yeah.
4. electrity damage does go through dr, it doesn't do piercing damage but electricity damage even if it looks like a trident.
5. Only if your dm allow it.
6. divine trident has a range of 0 so not valid for fervor, swift action spell casting.


1) No

power attack wrote:
The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage

2)Pretty sure touch attacks can be finesse'd, but my search skills are lacking.

3) As a weapon-like spell, yes.

4) It would ignore DR, but be blocked by resist electricity.

5)Not without the GM's express permission

permanency wrote:
You can make the following spells permanent ... The GM may allow other spells to be made permanent

not sure how good an idea it would be in any event. Just rolling over in your sleep would be a shocking wake up call...

6) EDIT- Changed my mind: No, as fervour requires the spell to be able to target, and this spell doesn't.

7) EDIT- Changed my mind: If the base spell is applicable then metamagic'd versions are too (unless the metamagic changes the targetting)

Scarab Sages

1. No. You can't use power attack on touch attacks.
2. No. However, since you wield it as a trident, if you had a level of swashbuckler you could finesse it with swashbucklers finesse as a trident is a one handed piercing weapon.
3. I don't see why not.
4. Dr doesn't apply, but energy resistance does.
5 not without gm fiat.
6 no. You are never the target of a gozreh's trident spell, so you cannot cast it on yourself with fervor.

Grand Lodge

You can benefit from Arcane Strike, and Inspire Courage, whilst attacking with Gozreh's Trident.


Can u cast a "touch spell attack" and attack with the divine trident to proc it ?

Sovereign Court

If you want to buff the damage of Gozreh's Trident... Look into Startoss Style.

Tridents are in the Thrown weapon group.


actually i was more thinking about buffing a "touch attack spell".


Yogmoth wrote:

Hi, i have a few questions about the spell Divine trident:

Divine Trident

-1- Is it possible to use the trident with power attack ?
Power Attack: The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks
Yes. You can use Power Attack, and trade BAB for nothing. Important if TWF with a regular weapon.

-2- Since the trident is made of lighting, can i use weapon finesse with it ?
Weapon Finesse: With a light weapon, ..., you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls.
Divine Trident: You wield this spear-like bolt as if it were a trident
The trident is classed as a One-Handed Melee Weapon and not a Light Melee Weapon, so no. Unless you have some way of applying Weapon Finesse to a One-Handed Melee Weapon.

-3- Can the trident be the target of warpriest divine power or other weapon buffs ?
Sacred Weapon applies to weapons with Weapon Focus, so if the trident is one, then yes.
For other things [like blessings], I would have to read it. I don't want to read them all now.

-4- Since it's made of electricity and it is subject to SR, does it goes through DRs ?
Energy damage is not subject to DR

-5- Can it be made permanent by the permancency spell ?
Permanency
With GM permission.
Might be easier to craft light saber(trident) as a magic item.

-6- Can i use the fervor warpriest ability to swift cast the divine trident ?
No. Not a targeted spell.

-7- Can i use the fervor warpriest ability to swift cast an empower spell divine trident ?
No. Not a targeted spell.

Thank you for your answers.

Linkified, and BLUE inline answers.

/cevah


Dragfall wrote:
actually i was more thinking about buffing a "touch attack spell".

It's not an unarmed strike or natural attack so by default it can't deliver a touch attack spell, if that's what you're asking. If you have spellstrike somehow then it depends if the 'spear-like bolt' which you 'wield as if it were a trident' counts as a weapon; I think it does but I'm not sure.


New question, since is works like a regular trident it's possible use Divine Trident as a ranged weapon?
if Yes, how?


Finrod84 wrote:

New question, since is works like a regular trident it's possible use Divine Trident as a ranged weapon?

if Yes, how?
Gozreh's Trident wrote:
Attacks with Gozreh’s trident are melee touch attacks.

Looks like no.

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