what's it do/ how's it work?
Unless you're an alchemist/investigator/master chymist, you can't do it. The alchemist discoveries available to investigators through the alchemist discovery investigator talent does not list feral mutagen or infuse mutagen, thus as a plain investigator, you cannot take a level of master chymist.
christos gurd wrote: mutagenic mauler does though just to be clear, this would be a great dip for investigator.
um. Might be totally off basis but
Wasn't it a "or " list?
"Special: Mutagen class feature, feral mutagen or infuse mutagen discovery."
mutagen, or feral mutagen, or infused mutagen.
Or is that not correct due to the lack of commas after feral mutagen?
I thought it was this way because, once you took feral or infused mutagen you no longer actually had the normal mutagen qualifications (Feral says "whenever you make a mutagen" not "you may choose to make a feral mutagen" so isn't it always a feral mutagen?).
I thought it was listed as such because in the APG those were the only discoveries back then that changed the core class ability of Mutagen.
Zwordsman wrote: Wasn't it a "or " list? I think so, yes. But the Investigator doesn't get any of them.
Investigator's do get mutagen, but that's iffy, as both feral and infuse mutagen go off mutagen. Of course, infuse mutagen works with a mindchemist's cognatogen, so I guess I was wrong. So yeah, if you take the mutagen alchemist discovery investigator talent you can be an investigator/master chymist.
Beyond that, I don't understand the OP's question. As the master chymist's abilities go off mutagen, when you use a mutagen, the master chymist's abilities modify mutagen as written.
christos gurd wrote: mutagenic mauler does though But does he get 3rd level extracts? Unless multiclassed, he couldn't do it.
yeah i think investigator can get it.. but they lose out n studied combat and on bombs . Baring nice GM's allowing them to equal eachother
TheBulletKnight wrote: Investigator's do get mutagen I don't have the book myself, but as I recall the Investigator doesn't have the mutagen class feature and can only get it as a Discovery.
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Master Chymist was written in a way that it ends up being highly incompatible with a lot of stuff that's come out since; it probably needs a rewrite, TBQH.
Zwordsman wrote: um. Might be totally off basis but
Wasn't it a "or " list?
"Special: Mutagen class feature, feral mutagen or infuse mutagen discovery."
mutagen, or feral mutagen, or infused mutagen.
Or is that not correct due to the lack of commas after feral mutagen?
I thought it was this way because, once you took feral or infused mutagen you no longer actually had the normal mutagen qualifications (Feral says "whenever you make a mutagen" not "you may choose to make a feral mutagen" so isn't it always a feral mutagen?).
I thought it was listed as such because in the APG those were the only discoveries back then that changed the core class ability of Mutagen.
I've always understood it to be Mutagen, and one of the two listed discoveries (which is no great hardship, because most Master Chymist builds want Feral Mutagen anyway - especially given how good the Furious Mutagen advanced talent is.
Zwordsman wrote: um. Might be totally off basis but
Wasn't it a "or " list?
"Special: Mutagen class feature, feral mutagen or infuse mutagen discovery."
mutagen, or feral mutagen, or infused mutagen.
Or is that not correct due to the lack of commas after feral mutagen?
I thought it was this way because, once you took feral or infused mutagen you no longer actually had the normal mutagen qualifications (Feral says "whenever you make a mutagen" not "you may choose to make a feral mutagen" so isn't it always a feral mutagen?).
I thought it was listed as such because in the APG those were the only discoveries back then that changed the core class ability of Mutagen.
I've always read it as you need the Mutagen class feature and feral mutagen or infused mutagen. Admittedly this makes listing Mutagen as a requirement somewhat redundant but no more than Feats listing every previous feat in the chain as a prerequisite as opposed to just the last one.
Ah thatd suck.. be a bit weire since the 2 mutafenic discoveries alter your ability to ever make a normal muta.
I love and hate , aster chymist haha. I kinda wish there were more extract ok prestige classes...
TheBulletKnight wrote: christos gurd wrote: mutagenic mauler does though But does he get 3rd level extracts? Unless multiclassed, he couldn't do it. i was suggesting this over an alchemist dip, your confusion is due to to my occasional inability to form a complete sentence.
Zwordsman wrote: Ah thatd suck.. be a bit weire since the 2 mutafenic discoveries alter your ability to ever make a normal muta.
I love and hate , aster chymist haha. I kinda wish there were more extract ok prestige classes...
Infuse doesn't, it's just an option, and a kind of expensive one at that. Like I said that's just how I read it, if you or your GM interpret it differently more power to ya.
Hear ya on the PC's though.
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