Slashing Grace question

[thorin001]

Choose one kind of one-handed slashing weapon (such as the longsword). When wielding your chosen weapon one-handed, you can treat it as a
one-handed piercing melee weapon for all feats and class abilities that require such a weapon (such as a swashbuckler’s or a duelist’s precise strike) and you can add your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength
modifier to that weapon’s damage. The weapon must be one appropriate for your size.

Is this meant to exclude light slashing weapons, or is that omission accidental.

All of the feats and class abilities that require a piercing weapon specify light or one-handed, so it seems odd that an ability to expand the damage types allowable would only apply to some of the weapon sizes.

[Jeff Merola]

It seems to be intentional, to make it more useful for the Swashbuckler class (which can finesse one-handed piercing weapons, and thus the target of Slashing Grace) than other classes (which cannot finesse most one-handed weapons).

[Rushley son of Halum]

What does the gladius count as? I does both piercing and slashing and is a 1 handed weapon.

[trollbill]

Gladius's are light weapons, not one-handed weapons.

[thorin001]

Jeff Merola wrote:

It seems to be intentional, to make it more useful for the Swashbuckler class (which can finesse one-handed piercing weapons, and thus the target of Slashing Grace) than other classes (which cannot finesse most one-handed weapons).

Except Swashbuckler Finesse applies to both light and one-handed weapons. That is why I was wondering if it was deliberate or not.

[Jeff Merola]

thorin001 wrote:

Jeff Merola wrote:

It seems to be intentional, to make it more useful for the Swashbuckler class (which can finesse one-handed piercing weapons, and thus the target of Slashing Grace) than other classes (which cannot finesse most one-handed weapons).

Except Swashbuckler Finesse applies to both light and one-handed weapons. That is why I was wondering if it was deliberate or not.

Um, my post was talking about that. Swashbucklers are the only ones that can finesse one handed weapons under normal circumstances (barring things like EWP: Aldori Dueling Sword), thus the feat is usually worth more to them as they can get dex to hit and damage, while other classes can only get it to damage with the feat. If light weapons were allowed, then anyone could just pick up a light weapon and do dex to damage and to hit.

[thorin001]

I can see your interpretation of the rules for that. The way I read it is that the Swashbuckler gets a cut down version of Weapon Finesse, not an enhanced one. They only get Weapon Finesse with piercing weapons, if they want it with other weapons they have to take the feat like everybody else.

[Jeff Merola]

thorin001 wrote:

I can see your interpretation of the rules for that. The way I read it is that the Swashbuckler gets a cut down version of Weapon Finesse, not an enhanced one. They only get Weapon Finesse with piercing weapons, if they want it with other weapons they have to take the feat like everybody else.

Swashbuckler Finesse wrote:

At 1st level, a swashbuckler gains the benefits of the Weapon Finesse feat with light or one-handed piercing melee weapons

Weapon Finesse wrote:

Benefit: With a light weapon, elven curve blade, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. If you carry a shield, its armor check penalty applies to your attack rolls.

Weapon Finesse normally doesn't work with most one-handed weapons. Slashing Grace lets you treat a one-handed slashing weapon as piercing for feats and class features. This means that a Swashbuckler can now use Swashbuckler finesse on it, while most people cannot weapon finesse most one-handed weapons.

[Night_Shade]

Question about the feat "Slashing Grace"... I understand how it helps with slashing weapons to make them finessable, but my question is with this part,
{and you can add your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to that weapon's damage.}

does that mean that only the slashing weapons that this feats opens up to be finessable can take advantage of the dex for damage, or does it allow all your finessable weapons to take dex to damage??

[baradakas]

Night_Shade wrote:

Question about the feat "Slashing Grace"... I understand how it helps with slashing weapons to make them finessable, but my question is with this part,

{and you can add your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to that weapon's damage.}

does that mean that only the slashing weapons that this feats opens up to be finessable can take advantage of the dex for damage, or does it allow all your finessable weapons to take dex to damage??

It is unambiguous in the description of the feat that its benefits only apply to the class of weapons that you select when you gain this feat.

ACG wrote:

Choose one kind of one-handed slashing weapon (such as the longsword). When wielding your chosen weapon one-handed...

All benefits of the feat come after that line. And it further clarifies this when it gives the rules for the damage benefit:

ACG wrote:

...you can add your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier to that weapon's damage.