Yes, it would. Spellcasters would feel less unique.
Wouldn't a Paladin be much more appropriate for this situation?
You think your fighter getting dominated and turning on you is bad, imagine when the angel summoner is the traitor.
As long as the Angels make their will saves.
Wouldn't a Paladin be much more appropriate for this situation?
With a sword and shield? He would lose access to Lay on Hands.
But on topic, nope. Something tells me that someone with no magical/psionic/supernatural capability choosing to stand toe-to-toe with powerful creatures of yore should not be weak willed.
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Would it really be that bad if the Fighter had a good will save?
Really?
It's funny, because I always imagined that classes that follow codes ought to have higher wills, because they are used to denying urges, on the path to success.
Arguably, anyone who must combat compelling urges from within would also fall into this catagory; (Sorcerers?)
Of course, that would mean Wizards get no good saves...oh well!
The perfect man for the job is a Qinggong Hungry Ghost Monk. Properly built at 20th level he would eat the horde and ask for seconds. And the people could find a nice tavern to hang the sword and shield over the mantle.
But on topic, nope. Something tells me that someone with no magical/psionic/supernatural capability choosing to stand toe-to-toe with powerful creatures of yore should not be weak willed.
I've got to agree with you. It somehow feels especially heroic; we're not even sure if the above mentioned fighter is thinking 'And when I die, I'll go to heaven.'. For we know, this could be a chaotic evil fighter performing his one good act before death, and thinking 'I guess they Abyss just couldn't wait for me..."
Free action move sword to shield hand, lay on hands, free action move weapon back the exact same way that melee casters do it now?
Not with a decently sized shield. Takes their hand slot up. For the record, I think it's weird.
One point of AC is a worthy price to pay for getting off the free hand trick. I've tried it in practice during Larps. It makes sense physically.
One point of AC is a worthy price to pay for getting off the free hand trick. I've tried it in practice during Larps. It makes sense physically.
Not sure if you're agreeing with me, let me clarify: I do think a Paladin with a x-and-shield should be able to use LoH. It's just by pure RAW it doesn't work. Which feels off to me. Like Fighters having a bad will save.
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YOU HAVE MY AXE
okay actually it is just an empty beer bottle but you get the idea OP
Well; what I understand is that a light shield allows you to carry things, but not wield weapons, so the claim is you can pass the sword into your light shield, use your ability, then pass it back into your main hand (a free action series)
I'm glad we both think it SHOULD be allowed, regardless of what FAQs may say; more enabling to the weapon-burdened!
Well; what I understand is that a light shield allows you to carry things, but not wield weapons, so the claim is you can pass the sword into your light shield, use your ability, then pass it back into your main hand (a free action series)
I'm glad we both think it SHOULD be allowed, regardless of what FAQs may say; more enabling to the weapon-burdened!
ECH, why with the weirdness, light shield? I will say that I was thinking heavy shield though.
If switching weapons between your hands with a light shield is too strange, then you can just use a buckler.
If it absolutely must be a heavy shield, then you can always use a Glove of Storing to get the free hand you need.
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Or a better class. Like a caster, they all get good will saves.Congratulations, you just gave up your fortitude save.
I am sure most wizards would be happy to concede a strong will save to fighters if they could add fortitude as a strong save to their class.
Really? I can't think of anyone who'd trade away a good will save for a good fort save. Especially when a wizard can afford to pump con harder than a fighter can afford to pump wis.
Will is easily the most important save since so many of the nastiest effects are tied to it... and that's why martials tend to have bad will saves.
I believe I used the word ADD.
Or a better class. Like a caster, they all get good will saves.Congratulations, you just gave up your fortitude save.
Multiclassing! It's the only answer!
wait this was a trick
I thought we were going to have a glorious last stand
instead it is just thread people threading in a thread that has been threaded 5938839948 times already and was a crap subject all those times too
*smashes beer bottle*