Questions about getting up from prone


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Does standing up from prone count as a non move move action like a 5 foot step or like a normal move action?

When you stand up from prone and provoke an Attack of Opportunity do you take the penalties from being prone for those attacks or not?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

It is a move action, though you didn't move, so the character can still move using it's standard action to do so.

AoO use the Prone AC to hit a character that is standing up. (You are still taking a -4 to AC until you complete your move to stand up)

There are a few trip masters around my area, this is one rule that is well known around here.

Liberty's Edge

doc the grey wrote:
Does standing up from prone count as a non move move action like a 5 foot step or like a normal move action?

There has been some disagreement over this one. The way I read the rules is that standing from prone is a move-equivalent action (meaning that the action is not considered movement since no actual distance is moved). Thus, a 5-foot step can also be done in the same round if the standard action is not used for movement.

doc the grey wrote:
When you stand up from prone and provoke an Attack of Opportunity do you take the penalties from being prone for those attacks or not?

Yes, the penalties apply. When an AOO occurs, it interrupts the action before the action is made...so the target is still considered prone.


Yep. You can also still 5ft step if you don't use your standard to move.


Stand up from Prone is listed as a Move Action on Table: Actions in Combat.

And as far as I know yes you would still be considered prone for those AoO's. You have not yet completed the action which is drawing the AoO.


I have many times stood up, used a 5 foot step, then attacked. I also know two paizonites who allow this sequence.

And, yes, as noted before, you count as prone until the action is complete.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Not sure about the 5 foot step, I have had it ruled both ways in game. My understanding is that standing up takes the place of a 5 foot step, even though it provokes. If the threatening enemy has combat reflexes, moving away in the same turn has clobbered me in the past.

I also can agree that it makes sense to be allowed to 5 foot step after taking a hit when the character stood up. That would make sense to me, but, again, a GM in a game has ruled against this a couple of times.


thaX wrote:

Not sure about the 5 foot step, I have had it ruled both ways in game. My understanding is that standing up takes the place of a 5 foot step, even though it provokes. If the threatening enemy has combat reflexes, moving away in the same turn has clobbered me in the past.

I also can agree that it makes sense to be allowed to 5 foot step after taking a hit when the character stood up. That would make sense to me, but, again, a GM in a game has ruled against this a couple of times.

Standing up is not a 5-foot-step equivalent. It definitely takes your move action.


Moving, in PF, is defined as 'exiting one square and entering another'. Standing up from prone is a move-equivalent action, but does not count as moving.


You're not allowed movement (distance) if you've taken a 5 ft step, and you're not allowed a 5 ft step if you've taken movement (distance).

So, standing 5 ft step, then standard action is completely legal. Standing is a move, 5 ft isn't an action, then anything that costs a standard or less may be preformed as long as it isn't distance move action.

Standing up provokes, and you will still be qualified as prone if an AoO is taken upon you.


Since were all on the subject

is there a non 3-10 feat intensive way to stand up from prone without drawing an attack of opportunity?

I remember there was some kind of class where you had to drive a bus for the elderly in real life to get a boon so that you can apply it to your 21 level fighter so that only on Thursdays he....


off the top of my head, some ways of standing:

it's a talent for a rogue or ninja (free action but still provokes)

ki stand is a 1-feat option if you have a ki pool (swift action and no provoke)

monkey style lets you attack normally from prone or stand with out provoking as a move or make a DC:20 acrobatics check to stand as a swift (no provoke)

blessing of fervor is a 4th level cleric spell (swift no provoke)

I think there are several archetypes and a couple of prestige classes.

So basically, I don't know a way for everyone to do it with just one feat, but there are several class based options that cost approximately one feat or less.


You are allowed 5-foot step if you did not moved any distance. Spending your move action to stand up from prone does not make you move any distance. Thus, you are allowed to make 5-foot step.

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