I am running a pathfinder game. A druid has a small cat (now medium size) and found a +1 studded leather and wants to put it on the cat.
The cat has light armor proficiency and is wearing normal studded leather now. I don't see a ruling about refitting. I see resizing rules.
I don't feel there is an issue with say a dwarf having magic armor and giving it to say a Human, the base cost of that armor is the same. However animal's base armor cost twice then humanoids.
Refitting is not resizing. A ring for a humanoid would refit to an animal companion but would armor?
I am running a pathfinder game. A druid has a small cat (now medium size) and found a +1 studded leather and wants to put it on the cat.
The cat has light armor proficiency and is wearing normal studded leather now. I don't see a ruling about refitting. I see resizing rules.
I don't feel there is an issue with say a dwarf having magic armor and giving it to say a Human, the base cost of that armor is the same. However animal's base armor cost twice then humanoids.
Refitting is not resizing. A ring for a humanoid would refit to an animal companion but would armor?
RAW you are right, but I'd probably handwave it, on the understanding that it isn't technically correct. It's only a matter of 25gp. I'd point out that it'll only work on basic light armour, no refitting full plate or mithril chain shirts allowed.
No, it wont work by the rules, and I would not allow it based on the fact that the game is also a game of resources.
No, it wont work by the rules, and I would not allow it based on the fact that the game is also a game of resources.
can you site the rules that say this wont work for me?
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No, it wont work by the rules, and I would not allow it based on the fact that the game is also a game of resources.can you site the rules that say this wont work for me?
See the section in magic items under the heading Magic Items and Size. It gives stats on the relative proportions of armor of different size. The fact that it exists must be read in the context that size for armor is fixed. There is no option in the rules to alter armor to fit a different form, such as for a quadruped.
No, it wont work by the rules, and I would not allow it based on the fact that the game is also a game of resources.can you site the rules that say this wont work for me?
Actually since armor(mundane) does not reshape there would need to be a rule saying magical armor can reshape, and magic armor has no such property plus what Howie said. :)
I am still missing a RAW or RAI. Your saying because there is no rule saying it does means it doesn't.
Since there is no rule that can be sited and maybe its just because I am just a nice DM. I will say light armors (most are thick shirts) with magic on them can fit anything that size. Or maybe make the PCs take it to an armor smith / make an armor craft check and add the price difference then it can be converted. Seems fair to me.
I am still missing a RAW or RAI. Your saying because there is no rule saying it does means it doesn't.
Since there is no rule that can be sited and maybe its just because I am just a nice DM. I will say light armors (most are thick shirts) with magic on them can fit anything that size. Or maybe make the PCs take it to an armor smith / make an armor craft check and add the price difference then it can be converted. Seems fair to me.
There is a default assumption that if it's not mentioned it doesn't happen. You can't just 'add in' effects to suit you (well you can, but that becomes a house rule :)). Therefore as re-shaping isn't mentioned anywhere it doesn't happen - that's the RAW and RAI. Re-sizing on the other hand has a paragraph all about it.
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I am still missing a RAW or RAI. Your saying because there is no rule saying it does means it doesn't.
Since there is no rule that can be sited and maybe its just because I am just a nice DM. I will say light armors (most are thick shirts) with magic on them can fit anything that size. Or maybe make the PCs take it to an armor smith / make an armor craft check and add the price difference then it can be converted. Seems fair to me.
An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence! Think of the rules as being restrictive rather than permissive; without express permission, you can't do something.
There is a default assumption that if it's not mentioned it doesn't happen. You can't just 'add in' effects to suit you (well you can, but that becomes a house rule :)). Therefore as re-shaping isn't mentioned anywhere it doesn't happen - that's the RAW and RAI. Re-sizing on the other hand has a paragraph all about it.I am still missing a RAW or RAI. Your saying because there is no rule saying it does means it doesn't.
Since there is no rule that can be sited and maybe its just because I am just a nice DM. I will say light armors (most are thick shirts) with magic on them can fit anything that size. Or maybe make the PCs take it to an armor smith / make an armor craft check and add the price difference then it can be converted. Seems fair to me.
The only rules for refit i can find used the word resize so me wanting to see refit isn't going to happen either.