Thanks to GM credit, my Natural Weapons Unarmed Fighter gets to start with a whole heap of gold and 6 fame at level 2.
I've spent a bunch of it on general equipment, but I'm left with a lump sum of 1033GP that I'm not entirely sure how to spend.
I've got two options in mind so far:
1. I could upgrade her Chain Shirt to a +1 Chain Shirt.
2. I could buy a heap of cracked Ioun Stones to help compensate for her tiny baby Fighter skillset with a bunch of tiny baby Competence bonuses.
Choosing is hard. Any tips?
Those aren't Always Available, though, aren't they?
A heap of cracked ioun stones? With 1033 gp? What do you mean?
The cheap ones that give +1 Competence bonuses instead of +5 or +2 to a stat etc.
If you are committing to a chain shirt, are there any special materials you want? For example, mithral would be +1,000 and include the masterwork cost so if you already paid for masterwork, it's actually on +850 gp. (I assume you have already paid the +150 for the masterwork version if you are considering enchanting it with 1,033 gp.)
Smite Makes Right wrote: If you are committing to a chain shirt, are there any special materials you want? For example, mithral would be +1,000 and include the masterwork cost so if you already paid for masterwork, it's actually on +850 gp. (I assume you have already paid the +150 for the masterwork version if you are considering enchanting it with 1,033 gp.) That is perfect! I hadn't even considered that. Goodbye, armor check penalty!
Violinist wrote: Those aren't Always Available, though, aren't they? Check your chronicles; they are pretty common. As for chain shirt, it makes a good early game armor but an unimpressive endgame armor. What's your dex? Do you intend to improve it?
You can't upgrade to special materials, you have to buy them new. So, you'll have to sell the MW chain shirt and by a adamantine one.
Alex McGuire wrote: Violinist wrote: Those aren't Always Available, though, aren't they? Check your chronicles; they are pretty common. As for chain shirt, it makes a good early game armor but an unimpressive endgame armor. What's your dex? Do you intend to improve it? No cloaks on my chronicles, alas.
She's Dex 11 right now, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to at least put the 4th level stat point towards bringing it up to 12 for the modifier.
It could be argued that I'm shooting myself in the foot by giving up Medium and Heavy armor proficiency just to get Feral Combat Training one level sooner, but I've never claimed to be good at this game.
GM Lamplighter wrote: You can't upgrade to special materials, you have to buy them new. So, you'll have to sell the MW chain shirt and by a adamantine one. I haven't played her yet, so that's not a problem. C:
BTW y'all wouldn't happen to know the price of a brooch, would you?
GM Lamplighter wrote: You can't upgrade to special materials, you have to buy them new. So, you'll have to sell the MW chain shirt and by a adamantine one. Technically, yes, but it sounds like the OP is still in the character creation step, so nothing he has done is 'final' yet.
Violinist, if you are thinking of using a Mithril Chain Shirt, you might want to consider Darkleaf Cloth Lamellar (Leather) instead (if you have the Ultimate Equipment Guide or another appropriate book): Just a tad cheaper (810 gp. vs 1100 gp) and just as good if you don't have an 18+ dexterity.
That being said, either option is a fairly expensive price (at low level, at least) to eliminate a 1 point Armor Check Penalty: It's really a personal call on your part, but you might want to put some thought into what you might want to buy in the next couple of sessions and whether or not it might help to have some extra gold on hand at that time.
A brooch has a variable price with no lower or upper limit. I always assume one is included in outfits (but I always take the explorer's outfit). Perhaps if we knew what you were looking for in a brooch, we could be of more help.
Taja the Barbarian wrote: [SNIP]
Violinist, if you are thinking of using a Mithril Chain Shirt, you might want to consider Darkleaf Cloth Lamellar (Leather) instead (if you have the Ultimate Equipment Guide or another appropriate book): Just a tad cheaper (810 gp. vs 1100 gp) and just as good if you don't have an 18+ dexterity.
That being said, either option is a fairly expensive price (at low level, at least) to eliminate a 1 point Armor Check Penalty: It's really a personal call on your part, but you might want to put some thought into what you might want to buy in the next couple of sessions and whether or not it might help to have some extra gold on hand at that time.
That's perfect!
TBH it would be Dragonhide for the flavor, but I just really dislike penalties. Heck, it might still be Dragonhide. Dragonhide Shirt, maybe? I don't know, I don't even know when I'll get a chance to play this lady.
Smite Makes Right wrote: A brooch has a variable price with no lower or upper limit. I always assume one is included in outfits (but I always take the explorer's outfit). Perhaps if we knew what you were looking for in a brooch, we could be of more help. Mostly I just want to be able to add "Lamplighter Brooch" to her inventory and not be asked things like "Did you pay for that?" or "What book is that from?" Eh, I'll just put it in there. It's not like anyone but me will ever notice.
Violinist wrote: The cheap ones that give +1 Competence bonuses instead of +5 or +2 to a stat etc. Ah, ok. What book can I find those in?
roll4initiative wrote: Violinist wrote: The cheap ones that give +1 Competence bonuses instead of +5 or +2 to a stat etc. Ah, ok. What book can I find those in? Seekers of Secrets! C:
Taja the Barbarian wrote: Violinist, if you are thinking of using a Mithril Chain Shirt, you might want to consider Darkleaf Cloth Lamellar (Leather) instead (if you have the Ultimate Equipment Guide or another appropriate book): Just a tad cheaper (810 gp. vs 1100 gp) and just as good if you don't have an 18+ dexterity. I don't think that you can get leather lamellar armor constructed from darkleaf cloth.
Ultimate Equipment, Darkleaf Cloth wrote: Items not primarily constructed of leather, fur, or hide are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of darkleaf cloth....Because darkleaf cloth remains flexible, it cannot be used to construct rigid items such as shields or metal armors. Ultimate Equipment, Leather Lamellar wrote: Lamellar is a type of armor in which small plates of various types of materials are strung together in parallel rows using fine cord. Lamellar plates can be constructed from lacquered leather... Wikipedia, Lamelar wrote: Lamellar armor consists of hundreds of small rectangular iron, leather (rawhide), or bronze plates (scales or lamellae) which are pierced in various locations and laced together into horizontal rows to the proper length needed to construct a particular armor item. When the lamellae are made of leather they can be hardened by a process such as... lacquering. It seems to me that the process of lacquering would make the lamellae rigid, and thus ineligible for darkleaf cloth.
I cant see any objection to lamelar darkleaf there. Yes, it normally remains flexible, but nothing prevents you from lacquering it. Its still lighter than other leathers.
If the pathfinder item definition stated that armor was rigid, I would say that there was cause for concern. Since the knowledge that the leather is made an unknown degree harder comes from a Wikipedia article, I think it should generally be allowed without issue.
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