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I've been contemplating a Paladin with the Warrior of the Holy Light and Empyreal Knight Archetypes. How does the The fact that the Empyreal Knight removes the Lay on Hands ability interact with the Warrior of the Holy Light's Power of Faith ability, which gives more Lay on Hands uses and a new power to apply them to? Would I only get the extra uses bestowed by Power of Faith? Does Power of Faith count as having Lay on Hands for the purposes of the Extra Lay On Hands feat? Do I get the full suite of "Lay On Hands" uses, that simply can only be used to generate the nimbus of light? The two Archetypes CAN be combined....
If an archetype changes an ability, you can't add another archetype which changes the same ability. Why do you think they can be combined?
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The OP believes the two Archetypes can be combined because the Warrior of the Holy Light's ability doesn't technically modify or replace the base Paladin's Lay on Hands ability, it replaces the base Paladin's Spells class feature.
To answer the OP's question, you're left with a dead ability, since you have no uses of Lay on Hands to increase.
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Darn. Well, I'd also thought a little about the Sacred Servant (possibly a weird one who somehow gave up Channel Positive Energy, but beaucoup de CL) - what could I do with that?
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Darn. Well, I'd also thought a little about the Sacred Servant (possibly a weird one who somehow gave up Channel Positive Energy, but beaucoup de CL) - what could I do with that?Sacred Servant modifies Sacred Bond, which Empyreal Knight also does, so it's a no go.
I understand - what I'm asking there is, "If I go back to the drawing board, give up on the Empyreal Knight, and look at the Sacred Servant instead, what interesting things could I do with that?"
Create a Paladin/summoner archetype.
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It would really help if you could give us an idea of what you want to see.
Well, as the header said, my initial vision was to combine the Empyreal Knight with the Warrior of the Holy Light, primarily trading out both spellcasting and positive energy channeling for other things.
I'm not averse to keeping spellcasting, though, depending.
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Actually, I think I've got it: Sacred Servant of Tsukiyo, and with the Unsanctioned Knowledge feat to boot!
...I'm Batman?
I'd still be interested if anyone has input on this....I understand - what I'm asking there is, "If I go back to the drawing board, give up on the Empyreal Knight, and look at the Sacred Servant instead, what interesting things could I do with that?"
I can give some, as someone who's currently playing a gunslinger 1/sacred servant of Falayna 6.
Sacred Servant is much closer to the cleric than the typical paladin, with the whole shtick of being intimately connected to a deity. If you've enjoyed clerics, the Sacred Servant takes a hand closer to them and becomes better (!) at channeling than their cleric compatriot, as well as, at very high levels, potentially having a caster level higher than their own hit dice.
I'd say the greatest draw from the roleplaying perspective is playing a character with a more well-fleshed out code; the base paladin code extends to all, but adding to those edicts via the tenets of a deity can really help establish a personality. For example, never striking first for Shelyn, or to aid graveskeepers and lead the way through the dark, for Tsukiyo.
If you're not a fan of heavier codes, you probably wouldn't like the Sacred Servant. If you don't mind it, it's got some fun abilities and a good GM gets a lot to work with when providing plot hooks and thinking of challenges for the players.
