I have a character in a lvl 16 gestalt game. He uses poisons.
He has the poison conversion discovery for alchemist, so the affliction type doesn't matter. Money is also not an object.
My question: Are there any poisons that are actually interesting? Most of it seems to either be "this much ability damage this many times." Or unconsciousness.
Is there a more interesting poison than that?
If not, do you have a favorite poison?
Are you looking for poison that's actually functional in combat or are just interesting? It's quite a feat to have either one of those properties for poison, let alone both.
By far, my favorite is Vishkanya Sleep Venom. If only for convenience. Most poisons come off as pretty boring though, save vs. ability damage.
Mostly looking for more interesting than ability damage.
Mostly looking for more interesting than ability damage.
Homebrew magical poisons with magical effects! That might be pretty cool. At best you really just make someone fall asleep or out cold in some manner, and usually not for too long so you have to act fast.
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Poison is a woefully under-implemented part of the game. I would recommend talking with your GM to try and homebrew some new poisons, with some new poison effects.
If you're an alchemist, perhaps you could incorporate your extracts and their effects into the poison? Perhaps a poison that deals fire damage? One that replicates the drawbacks, but not the benefits, of your mutagen?
Thanks.
I handn't found any interesting ones in my search, and that appears to be because there aren't any... the confusion one is good.
It's a highly homebrewed game with rules major light.
This is the character by the way.
Ice troll phlegm
Spell scorch
Woundweal
Ghast retch flask
All very interesting and lovely poisons. Personal favorite is the ghast retch. They're screwed if they don't save, and screwed if they do.
Poison's make a lot of fun
Especially with minor creation
School conjuration (creation); Level sorcerer/wizard 4
Casting Time 1 minute
Components V, S, M (a tiny piece of matter of the same sort of item you plan to create with minor creation)
Range 0 ft.
Effect unattended, nonmagical object of nonliving plant matter, up to 1 cu. ft./level
Duration 1 hour/level (D)
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no
You create a nonmagical, unattended object of nonliving vegetable matter. The volume of the item created cannot exceed 1 cubic foot per caster level. You must succeed on an appropriate Craft skill check to make a complex item.
Attempting to use any created object as a material component causes the spell to fail.
Most poisons are plant based.
Black lotus extract Contact 20 1 min. 1/rd. for 6 rds. 1d6 Con 2 saves 4,500 gp
Malyass root paste Contact 16 1 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d2 Dex 1 save 250 gp
Nitharit Contact 13 1 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d3 Con 1 save 650 gp
Sassone leaf residue Contact 16 1 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 2d12 hp/1 Con 1 save 300 gp
Terinav root Contact 16 1 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d3 Dex 1 save 400 gp
Arsenic Ingested 13 10 min. 1/min. for 4 min. 1d2 Con 1 save 120 gp
Belladonna Ingested 14 10 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d2 Str, see text 1 save 100 gp
Hemlock Ingested 18 10 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d6 Dex, see text 2 saves 2,500 gp
Id moss Ingested 14 10 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d3 Int 1 save 125 gp
Oil of taggit Ingested 15 1 min. — Unconscious 1d3 hrs. 1 save 90 gp
Striped toadstool Ingested 11 10 min. 1/min. for 4 min. 1d3 Wis and 1 Int 1 save 180 gp
Wolfsbane Ingested 16 10 min. 1/min. for 6 min. 1d3 Con 1 save 500 gp
Azure lily pollen Inhaled 15 — 1/min. for 2 min. nauseated 1 min./paralyzed 2d4 hrs. 1 save 1,500 gp
Bloodroot Injury 12 1 rd. 1/rd. for 4 rds. 1 Con and 1 Wis and confusion 1 rd. 1 save 100 gp
Blue whinnis Injury 14 — 1/rd. for 2 rds. 1 Con/unconscious 1d3 hrs. 1 save 120 gp
Deathblade Injury 20 — 1/rd. for 6 rds. 1d3 Con 2 saves 1,800 gp
Poisons are a total trap option in PF.
Their DCs never raise past crap. They almost all allow more than a single save. Their cost is anywhere between, "really?" and, "WTF, I'd rather buy a magic item!"
But then, what did you expect? This is a game where "one-hit-kills" are basically a no-no, and that's basically what poison is/was used for.
Ice troll phlegm
Spell scorch
Woundweal
Ghast retch flaskAll very interesting and lovely poisons. Personal favorite is the ghast retch. They're screwed if they don't save, and screwed if they do.
I can't seem to find these other than Woundweal.
Mad Hallucinations, Disfiguring Touch, Boiling Blood, and Touch of Gracelessness could be cool "poisons".
Ice troll phlegm : the winter AP
Ghast retch flask: ultimate equipment
Spell scorch: duergar poison: found in Advance race guide
That page is really helpful for making the high level poisons.
Still lacks the interesting factor, but that can be done mostly by putting status conditions or mind effects as poisons.
Thanks for all the help. Suggestions are still welcome.