| Andrea1 |
Auxmaulous
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Auxmaulous wrote:what happened exactly?I always felt bad about what happened to him and David C Sutherland III (Ad&D DMG cover artist).
If this is true, may he rest in peace.
Assuming you are asking about Sutherland? He did not continue employment with Wotc when they bought TSR - seems like life took a bad turn for him after that.
LazarX
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Freehold DM wrote:Auxmaulous wrote:what happened exactly?I always felt bad about what happened to him and David C Sutherland III (Ad&D DMG cover artist).
If this is true, may he rest in peace.
Assuming you are asking about Sutherland? He did not continue employment with Wotc when they bought TSR - seems like life took a bad turn for him after that.
Trampier became extremely disenchanted with comic arts, he basically dropped out of site. Years later he was contacted by one of the Dragon people who ran into him, and he made it quite emphatically known he wanted nothing to do with any aspect of the gaming or gaming art scene, and ESPECIALLY did not want to talk about the Wormy comic.
It was one of the answered "whatever happened to X" questions in the final issue of Dragon magazine.
He wouldn't be the only creator to reject his creations. Happened to the Tick, even the Addams Family.
| Abyssian |
Rest in peace, Dave. You were one of the most important parts of my nascent love of fantasy, gaming, and art.
My friends may have all agreed that DCSIII's Sylph was the best art in all of AD&D, but I maintained that anything you did was much, much better. I loved Wormy- well, as much as I was able to read (my parents didn't like to "waste" money on Dragon magazines).
I was sorry to hear that you had become disenfranchised with the industry and no longer wanted any part of it (even your checks, if lore is correct!). I will always hold your contributions to fantasy, gaming, and art in high esteem and am sorry to hear that there won't be any doodling on old mail while you're on hold or any other art to come from you.
RIP DAT
Jeremiah Wamaling
Marc Radle
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Freehold DM wrote:Auxmaulous wrote:what happened exactly?I always felt bad about what happened to him and David C Sutherland III (Ad&D DMG cover artist).
If this is true, may he rest in peace.
Assuming you are asking about Sutherland? He did not continue employment with Wotc when they bought TSR - seems like life took a bad turn for him after that.
Are you sure about that? I didn't think Sutherland was still working for TSR by the time WotC entered the picture. I thought he'd left long before that ...
| Joana |
Are you sure about that? I didn't think Sutherland was still working for TSR by the time WotC entered the picture. I thought he'd left long before that ...According to Wikipedia,
He worked at TSR until 1997 when the company was in the process of being purchased by Wizards of the Coast and he was not offered further employment.
Then again, it's Wikipedia. *shrug* Footnoted to be from CBS News, though.
Jeff Erwin
Contributor
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I've been looking through DAT's old art. Man, it was the artwork that got me as fired up about playing these games as anything else. Trampier is as influential for me as Gygax and Arneson ever were. He did a lot of the original Gamma World stuff too, and that was one of my favorite games ever.
He was my favourite artist in the old PM, DMG and MM.
| Calex |
Marc Radle wrote:Are you sure about that? I didn't think Sutherland was still working for TSR by the time WotC entered the picture. I thought he'd left long before that ...According to Wikipedia,Quote:He worked at TSR until 1997 when the company was in the process of being purchased by Wizards of the Coast and he was not offered further employment.Then again, it's Wikipedia. *shrug* Footnoted to be from CBS News, though.
http://jrients.blogspot.ca/2005/06/obituary-david-c-sutherland-iii.html
Auxmaulous
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Yeah, both the Sutherland and Trampier stories (more mystery with the second) were lore that I was familiar with pre-wikipedia. I only cited the date, but I thought he got dropped closer to the '99 date than the one cited in the wiki entry. So wiki says '97, I thought it was a few years after. Doesn't really matter much I suppose. I could have sworn that wotc had an article discussing the subject on one of their blogs a few years ago - could be mixing up the sources though.
So at this point the original artists that did the covers for the DMG, MM and PHB are all gone. All very evocative covers and images that inspire me to this day (even the goofy MM front and back cover).
A bit premature and young for both tbh.
| Cthulhudrew |
He wouldn't be the only creator to reject his creations. Happened to the Tick, even the Addams Family.
What are you referring to with the Tick? Ben Edlund is still involved with the property and is quite attached to it. I just saw him at a panel at SDCC celebrating the Tick's 25th anniversary. He's not making any more Tick stuff afaik, but he hasn't rejected it.
| Black Dougal |
That's a heavy accusation. What makes you say this, dougal?
After reading why David left the business, because of a reneged TSR promise to publish a Wormy compliation (sort of what they did for Snarfquest).
He left in 1988 which was after Gary got booted out by Lorraine, so I can only assume she had a hand in the decision not to publish his book.
And also explains why he reacted violently negative years later when someone tracked him down and suggested they publish Wormy after all.
http://thecastlesramparts.blogspot.ca/2014/03/dave-trampier-wormy-artist-pa sses-away.html