I want to play a cat
I came up with this fantastic idea to Play a cat summoner I have looked all over the messageboards but I haven't found any useful information so if someone had the rules to play It would be fantastic ( a cat )
And no I will not play a awakened animal!!
I would look forward to get up to get some answers and thanks
If you don't want to play an awakened animal you are gonna have a tough time.
What is it about Awaken that you don't want?
Cat charisma is way too low. But I, for one, know I would not allow a player to be an animal. Int, and inability to communicate, is too big.
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If you're not Awakened, you are just a cat. No class levels, no Feats (well, one Feat), no spells.
No use.
It's a really good book.
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You could, if your GM worked with you, play an archmage's familiar getting up to all sorts of crazy misadventures on the side. Play with familiar statistics for a 20th lvl familiar. You might be able to hack it. It's not RAW, but if your DM lets it fly it could be really flavorful.
Catfolk druid. Bam.
It is okay with the DM only if I could find the rules + it's a mythic campaign
The backstory of the cat is that the a ghat expet and I'm now out to conquer the world
Use Kitsune, take the feat that let's you change into a fox and then "re-skin" it to look like a cat instead of a fox.
If you don't want to play an awakened animal you are gonna have a tough time.
What is it about Awaken that you don't want?
Isolating an awakened animal an allowable race option?
If you don't want to play an awakened animal you are gonna have a tough time.
What is it about Awaken that you don't want?
Is playing an awakened animal an allowable race option?
Just as allowable as playing a regular cat.
Which is to say, if your DM says so.
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Thanks I think I'm going to do that
The World of men Shall be my slave and cats shall rule the world
It is okay with the DM only if I could find the rules + it's a mythic campaign
The backstory of the cat is that the a ghat expet and I'm now out to conquer the world
The first question is what that statement means. The second question isn't a question but a statement: Being an ordinary cat is really hard.
But if you really want to be a cat, it's going to be difficult, but it's doable.
There is no direct Pathfinder rule that says you need to not be an animal to take class levels. Cats have 1 HD, so you'll replace your HD with your class levels. According to the rules for adding class levels to monsters, your stats will increase by +4, +4, +2, +2, +0, -2. Your base race will essentially look like this:
- Tiny size, meaning no reach, +2 AC and attack rolls
- Str -7, Dex +5, Con -2, Int -8, Wis +2, Cha -3.
- Low Light vision, scent
- 2 claws and a bite, as natural weapons (claws deal 1d2, bite 1d3.)
- +4 climb, +4 stealth
You try to do this as a summoner and you're sort of in a bad place. With that +4 going into charisma you can have 11 charisma, just barely enough to cast 1st level spells. It's doable technically, but you'll still be a cat. You'll also be subject to wild empathy and handle animal checks.
I'm not entirely sure how mythic works, but I'm not certain it'll help you much in this regard, to be completely honest.
When you're finished with your mythic tear your practical at demigod so I'm going to end up like the demigod of cats and slavery
Plus have been pet of a god
So I am not a totally normal cat
I'm starting to think I'm just going to figure something out myself
Hah. I actually made a cat sorcerer several years back with the 'wizards familiar' as the justification. Unfortunately there was a deck of many things floating around the party at the time. He never even made it out of the inn he started at...
Use Kitsune, take the feat that let's you change into a fox and then "re-skin" it to look like a cat instead of a fox.
This is pretty clever. You'd be a 'cat' most of the time with the ability to occasionally change into a humanoid, a byproduct of
. . . Plus have been pet of a god
So I am not a totally normal cat. . . .
Having a –2 Strength, +2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma from Kitsune also dovetails nicely with a summoner build.
On a side note, why is the Natural Spell feat so much better than the Wild Speech feat?
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Have you considered Baleful Polymorph and/or Wildshape that you always keep on? Both are great options for playing a cat in the rules.
If you want to play a cat in body only, the wildshape option is great. Or intentionally fail the fort BP save but make the Will BP save.
If you want to be a cat in mind and body, intentionally fail both BP saves.
It is even quite cheap. You can get, by RAW, a 9th level wizard to cast BP on you for a mere 10gp x 5 x 9 = 450 gp! Sweet!
You can even be a spellcaster (if you make the will save) if you are a deaf oracle who only casts spells with verbal components. Grab Magical Lineage and Still Spell for even more flexibility.
Use spell like abilities (gnome, rogue talent) to use ghost sound to talk, when you have to. Or go for deaf oracle / sorcerer (eschew materials comes in handy) and cast still silent ghost sound in a first level slot.
With the sweet +8 to stealth and +4 to dex, make sure you are sneaky!
Use your tiny size to enter the spaces of enemies and even walk right through (though you provoke AoOs to do so).
How do you plan to have input with such a low Int? I guess if you blew money on the best Int items money can buy then you will be around average human Int, but the question is how would you get those items as a cat? You'll still lack communication and a grip even if you do get them
No offense, this is gotta be the worst idea I've ever heard lol. Good luck to you brave sir!
Poly rules say merged continually-operating items remain functional. So your +2 or +4 Int headband still works even after you've chosen to fail one or two BP saves. You start off as a cat with a higher int. And you keep your hp and some other stuff.
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I came up with this fantastic idea to Play a cat summoner I have looked all over the messageboards but I haven't found any useful information so if someone had the rules to play It would be fantastic ( a cat ). . . .
Again, I have to ask, why not an awakened cat? Cat's start out with crap scores (Str 3, Dex 15, Con 8, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 7) and one hit die. Awaken adds 2 hit die and a little extra to Intelligence and Charisma. If your DM's on board with you playing a cat, and you don't like the animal hit dice, capture a wright and let him touch you twice and voluntarily fail the save. Then just start adding class levels.
If your DM allows psionics, go psion 5/thrallherd x. Manifesting powers doesn't take actual speech or gestures (even though you could talk at that point), so it's furry friendly. Thrallherd also allows leadership that isn't as dependent on charisma so, again, it's easier for awakened critters, which sounds like something that might work well with your concept.
Oh, and Notabrick, I already mentioned I like your suggestion, but it makes me think of a tibbit character a friend played in 3.5. Which also reminds me of the Dragon Magazine update for Oriental Adventures (which was Paizo) and the hengeyokai which are similar to both the tibbits and the kitsune, so a willing DM has quite a few races to convert to PF if one wished.
I talked to theDM and she said I just could create a new race with the racebuilder so now I'm going to built a outsider catlike creature
After old expet of a god and now out to conquer the world
Alternatively you could just be a Silvanshee, which IS a cat-formed outsider, and just have a 2 level adjustment.
don't forget to make certain you have hands so you can cast spells with somatic components.
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We had a campaign where some played a cat.
Eventually, everyone hated it.
The players, and the DM.
It got to the point where everyone would rather play no game, at all, then play with this cat pc.
It is a fun idea, in theory, but in practice, it will eventually grind on everyone's nerves, and everyone in the group will hate you for it.
Note: This player simply had this cat pc do, as a normal cat would do. That was all.
You have been warned.
Haha, when I read this OP first thought I had was;
Player: I want to play a cat, and it not awakened.
GM: Okay sure, here have a bag of popcorn, let me know if you want anything else. Everyone else roll initiative.
Need to be more clear on what you want.
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Only going to be like a normal cat Then I want to but not all the time after all I'm a outsider who is out to Conquer the world and make everyone was not a cat into slaves.
AHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA ARRRRR sorry Hair ball I will continue my evil laugh now. what's that shiny shiny I wanted no I think I'm going to take a nap
Of course
Rakshasha-spawn Teifling could work, if ye wanted a humanoid cat person, race if from Blood of fiends.
No I don't want to be a humanoid, just a cat alike creature
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Oh?
Cat-like.
So, you won't be just some guy, sitting at a table, describing silly things that every housecat does, over and over, and taking up time, as your cat PC breaks from the party, to do more stupid cat stuff?
Not gonna just be the guy, whose "roleplay" is just sounding like a non-stop Meow-Mix commercial?
Not gonna interrupt all the other players describing their heroic actions, to give a detailed description, in minute detail, of how your cat PC, is playing with a piece of string?
You are just going to be a cat-like hero, in an adventuring party, who actively contributes.
That could work.
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We had a campaign where some played a cat.
Eventually, everyone hated it.
The players, and the DM.
It got to the point where everyone would rather play no game, at all, then play with this cat pc.
It is a fun idea, in theory, but in practice, it will eventually grind on everyone's nerves, and everyone in the group will hate you for it.
Note: This player simply had this cat pc do, as a normal cat would do. That was all.
You have been warned.
Yeah had a similair experiance with A Psionic cat Pc in a campaign I was in. Sounds amusing at first but quickly becomes annoying in my experiance.
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Yeah had a similar experience with A Psionic cat Pc in a campaign I was in. Sounds amusing at first but quickly becomes annoying in my experience.We had a campaign where some played a cat.
Eventually, everyone hated it.
The players, and the DM.
It got to the point where everyone would rather play no game, at all, then play with this cat pc.
It is a fun idea, in theory, but in practice, it will eventually grind on everyone's nerves, and everyone in the group will hate you for it.
Note: This player simply had this cat pc do, as a normal cat would do. That was all.
You have been warned.
That's how it goes with some of these really "quirky & novel" ideas.
Amusing, for a short time, then obnoxious, and then, you hate it.
Be sure to end when that happens. We waited way too long, and it got insanely ugly.
Well if you want to straight up turn a cat into a pc, you would have to take the bestiary entry and subtract 10 off every even numbered ability score and 11 off every odd numbered ability score to get your racial adjustments. And the rest would be derived from the statblock as well
That's
-STR -8, DEX +4, CON -2, INT -8, WIS +2, CHA -4: Cats are extremely small and weak, being regular animals they also lack mental capacity, however they are observant and very agile; a cat with intelligence 2 or less can't gain class levels, or use skills other than Acrobatics, Climb, Fly, Perception, Stealth, and Swim.
-Speed 30 ft
-Tiny size: Cats gain a +2 size bonus on attack rolls and AC, a +4 size bonus on fly checks and a +8 size bonus on stealth checks and a -2 size penalty on CMB and CMD. They use their Dexterity modifier for climb checks, rather than strength.
-Low-Light vision: Cats can see twice as far as humans in conditions of dim light
-Scent: cats have the scent ability
-Skilled: Cats gain a +4 racial bonus on Climb and Stealth checks
-Quadrupedal: Cats walk on all fours, this means they have no prehensile hands and can't cast spells with somatic components and will have trouble using material components, but gain a +4 bonus to CMD against trip attempts.
-Racial hit dice: A cat begins the game with one racial hit die. This grants it 1d8+CON hit points, +2 to REF and FORT base save bonuses, one feat, 2+INT skill points. Cat class skills are Acrobatics, Climb, Fly, Perception, Stealth, and Swim.
-Languages: none; cat's can't speak, this also means they cannot cast spells with verbal components. Cat's with high intelligence scores do not learn additional languages, they can only learn languages with the Linguistics skill.
Not sure why you believe that common animal can get an idea of enslaving humanoid creatures. It may have something like desire to make whole world its territory, or have dominant status over other species of creatures if its crazy enough, but animal does not have concept of "slave" unless it is awakened.
Idea is interesting but i do not see how one can justify it.
Expet of a god
Or you could play Lion-O of Thundercats...
And outsider