What can I do with an Undine?


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Grand Lodge

I play mainly PFS, but this question is applicable beyond PFS so I thought I'd ask in the Advice forums. I have an Undine boon allowing me to create one. What can I do with it that is mechanically impressive while still being fun? I'm planning to use another boon or two on this character because it is my first con boon, and I want to do something cool with it.

I would prefer not to play a druid(already have one) or a ZAM(play one in a homegame).

I've been looking at other monk options, gunslinger, inquisitor splashes, although I'm not sure whether or not full inquisitor works with that strength penalty, cleric, and ranger. Have I missed anything, and what are your opinions on a good fit for Undines?

Grand Lodge

Travel domain Cleric. Put on your mithral breastplate and go for a swim at 80ft a round!

Scarab Sages

"What can I do with an Undine?" Whatever you want, as long as they're willing. :)

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

Serious answer:

Watersinger bard is pretty flavorful, but the stats don't line up well for it.

They would make excellent Dex based Monks or Warpriests, but you would need to get an agile weapon ASAP.

Dark Archive

Water based Sorceress that specialized in using Hydralic push to do all kinds of combat manuevers.


An undine would make an excellent archer inquisitor. Be Amphibious, take the Oceans subdomain, worship Besmara, Gozreh, or Naderi.

Scarab Sages

Wrong John Silver wrote:
An undine would make an excellent archer inquisitor. Be Amphibious, take the Oceans subdomain, worship Besmara, Gozreh, or Naderi.

You would need to go crossbow based to shoot underwater though.


Do we have to keep the responses to PG-13 or so because frankly _it's and undine!_

That's like asking what would you do with Aphrodite.


Victor Zajic wrote:
Water based Sorceress that specialized in using Hydralic push to do all kinds of combat manuevers.

I'm doing exactly that in CotCT, and having a blast (cold-based fireball, if you want to be specific, but repeatedly shoving a Red Mantis onto spiked rocks was a lot of fun, too!)


Imbicatus wrote:
Wrong John Silver wrote:
An undine would make an excellent archer inquisitor. Be Amphibious, take the Oceans subdomain, worship Besmara, Gozreh, or Naderi.
You would need to go crossbow based to shoot underwater though.

Did I miss a rule about using bows underwater or are you just referring to the fact that every 5ft of water is a -2 to hit?

Dark Archive

Water bender monk

Quin gong archetype

Scarab Sages

Claxon wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Wrong John Silver wrote:
An undine would make an excellent archer inquisitor. Be Amphibious, take the Oceans subdomain, worship Besmara, Gozreh, or Naderi.
You would need to go crossbow based to shoot underwater though.
Did I miss a rule about using bows underwater or are you just referring to the fact that every 5ft of water is a -2 to hit?

I was referring to the Underwater Crossbow specifically, but it looks like it's conflicting with the rules for ranged attacks underwater.


Imbicatus wrote:
Claxon wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Wrong John Silver wrote:
An undine would make an excellent archer inquisitor. Be Amphibious, take the Oceans subdomain, worship Besmara, Gozreh, or Naderi.
You would need to go crossbow based to shoot underwater though.
Did I miss a rule about using bows underwater or are you just referring to the fact that every 5ft of water is a -2 to hit?
I was referring to the Underwater Crossbow specifically, but it looks like it's conflicting with the rules for ranged attacks underwater.

True. But a couple of things:

First, I wouldn't expect a large percentage of adventures set underwater. The reason I trade out Hydraulic Push for Amphibious, is because you get to replace it with the Surge domain power, which can both drag and bull rush, and can be used more times a day. You even get an extra +1 to the combat maneuver check from Water Affinity. So, you might as well give up Hydraulic Push, and get water breathing for it.

Second, inquisitors get all the crossbow feats, so you're starting from a better position. Since undines get a strength penalty, crossbows are also better because your damage won't suffer from it. Get yourself an underwater repeating darkwood heavy crossbow, the Point Blank Shot feats, and you'll be capable in many different situations.


Imbicatus wrote:
Claxon wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Wrong John Silver wrote:
An undine would make an excellent archer inquisitor. Be Amphibious, take the Oceans subdomain, worship Besmara, Gozreh, or Naderi.
You would need to go crossbow based to shoot underwater though.
Did I miss a rule about using bows underwater or are you just referring to the fact that every 5ft of water is a -2 to hit?
I was referring to the Underwater Crossbow specifically, but it looks like it's conflicting with the rules for ranged attacks underwater.

Thats sort of what I was getting at. By using the underwater crossbow you don't take as drastic of penalties for ranged combat (mostly because the range at which you take penalties is changed (apparently to 20ft?)

At first I thought you implying that a bow couldn't be used underwater at all. Which to my knowledge wasn't the case, they just don't work well underwater (because you can't hit the broadside of a barn from 50ft away).

Grand Lodge

Ha, now I'm in the same situation, having just received an Undine boon. Do I go Inquistor and get sweet domains, or roll Ranger and be a Point-Blank Master with a crossbow? :/

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