bard using PERMANENCY


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How can I get PERMANENCY the spell without dipping into is there a feat that would normally allow me to get a spell like that


Eldritch heritage arcane should work


Scroll of permanency+UMD=profit?


Master of the Dark Triad wrote:
Scroll of permanency+UMD=profit?

wouldn't know where to get the scroll only wizard we have is necro


A diplomacy check and a large city is usually helpful in locating desired magic items.
Grab a scroll, then use magic device (as was said before). A scroll is 1125 gp (or more, if CL > 9 is required) + material cost for permanency effect (typically 2500).

If you're rolling in money, pay a wizard to cast Permanency into a Ring of Spell Storing. That would be 50,000 for the ring, 450 to pay the wizard (or more, for higher caster level), plus the material cost of Permanency.

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Tangaroa wrote:

A diplomacy check and a large city is usually helpful in locating desired magic items.

Grab a scroll, then use magic device (as was said before). A scroll is 1125 gp (or more, if CL > 9 is required) + material cost for permanency effect (typically 2500).

If you're rolling in money, pay a wizard to cast Permanency into a Ring of Spell Storing. That would be 50,000 for the ring, 450 to pay the wizard (or more, for higher caster level), plus the material cost of Permanency.

So a ring of permancy it would become?

The wizard will have craft wondrous and rings so he can make it if we find a scroll?

And if done this way would it still use the high amounts of money to cast?

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Are you already a bard?

Cause the Magician would be able to pick it up. Or a Samsaruian Bard.


Espy Kismet wrote:

Are you already a bard?

Cause the Magician would be able to pick it up. Or a Samsaruian Bard.

I am already a bard yes


Y cant teh necro cast????

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Dang.. Not much you could do beyond UMDing it or ringing it


Zotpox wrote:
Y cant teh necro cast????

Teh necro can't cast because it's a spell from universal and he went necro I don't think you can choose the universal school if from necro school

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Zotpox wrote:
Y cant teh necro cast????

This! At 9th level even.


The ring was an extreme example. The wizard has scribe scroll, too, and can learn permanency. If you have enough UMD of +20 or more, I would go with that option. It's a DC 29 to cast a 5th level scroll caster level 9 scroll.

If you want to get weird and exotic, have him magic jar into your body and cast Permanency in your body.

Not that it's usually a good idea to let a necromancer do that sort of thing...


BloodyManticore wrote:
Eldritch heritage arcane should work

I looked into that and it says a first lvl spell if i'm right and this is a 5th lvl spell


Universal school can be cast by any wizard. always.


The necro can't (normally) cast Permanency on the bard because most effects specify "yourself", except enlarge, shrink and resistance. (Edited)

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Count Coltello wrote:
Zotpox wrote:
Y cant teh necro cast????
Teh necro can't cast because it's a spell from universal and he went necro I don't think you can choose the universal school if from necro school

No, it just takes 2 slots, if it's from one of his opposed schools, and I doubt he took universal as opposed. Either way, he can.


Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:
Zotpox wrote:
Y cant teh necro cast????
This! At 9th level even.

I thought you couldn't choose a power from universal school being from necro school


Count Coltello wrote:
BloodyManticore wrote:
Eldritch heritage arcane should work
I looked into that and it says a first lvl spell if i'm right and this is a 5th lvl spell

its one spell of a level ypu can cast. I meant to say the second eldritch heritage


Count Coltello wrote:
Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:
Zotpox wrote:
Y cant teh necro cast????
This! At 9th level even.
I thought you couldn't choose a power from universal school being from necro school

All wizards have access to Universal magic, hence the name. No extra slots required.


BloodyManticore wrote:
Count Coltello wrote:
BloodyManticore wrote:
Eldritch heritage arcane should work
I looked into that and it says a first lvl spell if i'm right and this is a 5th lvl spell
its one spell of a level ypu can cast. I meant to say the second eldritch heritage

Oh right i'll check I to it more than thanks


Yah, teh 9 lives staeler's came frum somewheres.


Count Coltello wrote:
BloodyManticore wrote:
Count Coltello wrote:
BloodyManticore wrote:
Eldritch heritage arcane should work
I looked into that and it says a first lvl spell if i'm right and this is a 5th lvl spell
its one spell of a level ypu can cast. I meant to say the second eldritch heritage
Oh right i'll check I to it more than thanks

That would be feat intensive. You need skill focus (any knowledge), eldritch heritage and imp. eldritch heritage.


Have the necro make you a scroll or staff <--- is especially useful if you have druid friends :)


Tangaroa wrote:
Count Coltello wrote:
Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:
Zotpox wrote:
Y cant teh necro cast????
This! At 9th level even.
I thought you couldn't choose a power from universal school being from necro school
All wizards have access to Universal magic, hence the name. No extra slots required.

awesome didn't know works thanks i'll just have him make the scrolls

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