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I would make him a ninja over assassin. Then use the versatility that comes with ninja tricks and whatnot. They are all keyed off charisma anyway. :)
Fighting style can be unarmed, and go with maybe the shuriken trick as batarangs.
Maybe grab a single combat style feat or two to work with. Probably something offensive. I am trying to be vague so that you can make your own character and not a suggested build (since it isn't really your own then).
Ninja is definitely the way to go for Batman. Maybe some monk levels or the new Brawler class, but most of your levels should be ninja.
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I'd go with a nonlethal build using Improved Unarmed Strike, Sap Adept, Knockout Artist, and Sap Master to get some massive nonlethal damage. Dip a couple of levels in the brawler archetype for fighters (3ish) for the accuracy and damage levels, and maybe a level of monk for stunning fist and better base damage.
Are you permitted 3rd party material? The rogue genius games talented monk and talented rogue(which includes ninja abilities and even some assasin abilities) have rules for combining the two. Together they make an excellent batman.
I've made this character, and essentially use the talented monk offense (which can allow you to flurry with and have scaling damage with any weapon such as shurikens) and ninja charisma based ki/stealthy options.
the ton of Batman build threads are here
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Batman is NOT lawful good. I would never describe him as anything other than a vigilante. Aka, chaotic good.
On the shadowdancer idea, however, a one level dip is very good for a stealthy character.
Bah, when a serial killing psychopath like Dexter Morgan can be proven to be lawful good then it's no stretch to include Batman into that list.
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In 3.5 batman was statted up as a ranger
Whether or not you go ninja or ranger he definitely has favored terrain/ hide in plain sight for urban
If ranger I'd peobably go for an archetype that gives up the animal companion, though batman did have a dog, Ace the bat-hound, so maybe you could keep it
I'd make him a trapper urban ranger maybe with a ninja dip and a monk dip
Edit: if he were a lvl 20 gesualt (and really as the GD batman he is) I'd make him ranger (trapper urban) 20 ninja 5 monk (master of many styles) 4 shadow dancer 1 sleepless detective 10
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I don't know anything about Batman, so forgive my ignorance.
Batman is NOT lawful good. I would never describe him as anything other than a vigilante. Aka, chaotic good...
I love the internet experts we are.
And to the OP. I suggest you focus on part of what bagmand is. Because trying for everything will lave you a very unBatmanlike character that can do everything not very good.
Decide if you want the super detective. Or the sneeky dude. Or the guy that can beat Superman because of gadgets and preperation.
If you want the Can take on the JLA aloen and win Batman you will have to keep the character feel and go full caster, i think.
But with ninja and 2 monk levels for feats, evasion and flurry. I think you can get a long way. Take minor magic rogue talent to get craft wonderous stuff for the investor. Take perception, intimidate, bluff and knowledge skills for the dedective. And Pick the sap adept/Master feats to be a great shadow figther. The batarangs is Best used as shurikins i think. If you win initiative with them as a ninja you can get alot of sneek attack in.
But ultimately the batman feel you will have to talk to the GM about.
Sorry? Should I be insulted?
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I don't know anything about Batman, so forgive my ignorance.I love the internet experts we are.Batman is NOT lawful good. I would never describe him as anything other than a vigilante. Aka, chaotic good...
No sorry. I realize you had a Day to read up on Batman between the posts. But they were almost on to of each other in the tread and it just looked funny to me.
Batman is almost certainly lawful good. He has a personal code that he adheres to, even to his detriment. He's not paladin good, but he is absolutely lawful and definitely has a great many good tendencies.
One could argue that his alignment oscillates between lawful neutral, lawful good, and neutral good.
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Just use a pair of Cestii for your "unarmed" damage. Batman does have a pair of Armoured and spiked gloves/vambraces as a standard part of his costume.
Lets just be clear about one thing, Batman doesn't kill. It's like his thing. He doesn't sink to that level.
He should probably be built around a non-lethal sap master ninja build.
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Lets just be clear about one thing, Batman doesn't kill. It's like his thing. He doesn't sink to that level.
He should probably be built around a non-lethal sap master ninja build.
True, but you could just change Batman to your pick of Jean-Paul Valley, Lady Shiva or the Punisher and have the exact same character concept without Bruce's insane no-kill rule.
True, but you could just change Batman to your pick of Jean-Paul Valley, Lady Shiva or the Punisher and have the exact same character concept without Bruce's insane no-kill rule.Lets just be clear about one thing, Batman doesn't kill. It's like his thing. He doesn't sink to that level.
He should probably be built around a non-lethal sap master ninja build.
If Batman was all about figthing that would be true.
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The issue is that not only does Batman not kill, he doesn't let Green Lantern or Superman or Wonder Woman kill...
I think your comix May be different than the ones we get in Denmark. Is Batman ever morally superior to Wonder Woman? I can remember how he talks Superman Down once but he isent there to talk Green Lanterne out of it when it matters.
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Besides, the no-kill rule is a relatively recent addition to the Bats. Go read some reprints of the original and silver age Detective Comics. The Bat-Man carried a gun.
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The issue is that not only does Batman not kill, he doesn't let Green Lantern or Superman or Wonder Woman kill...I think your comix May be different than the ones we get in Denmark. Is Batman ever morally superior to Wonder Woman? I can remember how he talks Superman Down once but he isent there to talk Green Lanterne out of it when it matters.
Non of the big DC heroes kill unless you count Lobo a hero.
watch the JLA cartoon he does it atleast 5 times
watch the JLA cartoon he does it atleast 5 times...
The issue is that not only does Batman not kill, he doesn't let Green Lantern or Superman or Wonder Woman kill...I think your comix May be different than the ones we get in Denmark. Is Batman ever morally superior to Wonder Woman? I can remember how he talks Superman Down once but he isent there to talk Green Lanterne out of it when it matters.
Non of the big DC heroes kill unless you count Lobo a hero.
I will take your word for it:)
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If Batman was all about figthing that would be true.True, but you could just change Batman to your pick of Jean-Paul Valley, Lady Shiva or the Punisher and have the exact same character concept without Bruce's insane no-kill rule.Lets just be clear about one thing, Batman doesn't kill. It's like his thing. He doesn't sink to that level.
He should probably be built around a non-lethal sap master ninja build.
Ok, the Shadow or Phantom then. They are both shadowy crime-fighters with detective skills who use exotic training to terrorize their foes.
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Because Batman doesn't take no for an answer?
So you enter combat, and smack a guy on the head. Good job! He's unconscious. Morally superior.
The Fighter looses two arrows and straight up murders the guy next to you.
What would Batman do?
Why, he'd incapacitate or disarm his ally of course. Can't have people in his team killing left and right. Here comes two rounds of lecturing while the thieves guild continues to stab at you.
So say this batman character incapacitates every enemy in the room. All these demon worshipping cultists. He proceeds to tie them up while the Ranger and Cleric ready their weapons for coup de grace.
What would Batman do?
He'd stop them. He'd get preachy at them for twenty minutes.
So now you have an interparty argument. After. Every. Combat. All of them.
Eventually the Ranger snaps. He's not playing Dungeons and Teaparties. So he slits some throats while they're down and goes back to murdering things in combat. The other party members are inclined to agree.
What would Batman do?
He leaves. He stops hanging around with these adventurers because being an adventurer in the traditional sense is not very Batman. He goes back to being a lone vigilante and since Pathfinder is a team game, is written out of future sessions entirely.
So you go and roll up a new character. The other people enjoying the game are relieved they no longer have to play by the combat whims of a single member of the team, and everything goes back to normal.
Or you could just accept killing as being a very large part of 90% of Pathfinder games and adjust fire
so youre saying it would be like partying with a paladin... are those not allowed in the game now?
Go Moon Knight, it's the homicidal marvel version of Batman.