Swashbuckler: Where's my buccaneer?


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So, I'm really pleased with the Swashbuckler. With the errata that clarifies they always get Precise Strike if they have at least 1 panache, they're easily my favorite new class of the bunch.

I do have one concern, and it may be a small one. Swashbucklers actually make poor firearms users. While they can take Amateur Gunslinger to get 1 deed and 1 grit, they are forever barred from multiclassing with Gunslinger. I feel like this is a mistake, as the Swashbuckler is perfect for exactly one-half of the typical pirate character. I was hoping to make a character that fights with a rapier in one hand and a pistol in the other, which seems like it was the intention behind the Swashbuckler, but the execution specifically bars the Swashbuckler from being as good at it as it could be.

I'm hoping that there will be an archetype for the Swashbuckler that lets them use panache for firearm deeds. Because right now, the ideal character I want to make is a multiclass Swashbuckler/Gunslinger, but that option isn't allowed by the alternate class rules.


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They said when they announced the swashbuckler that there would be a gun using archetype.


I believe they already mentioned that one of the Swashbuckler archetype will be about a greater incorporation of firearms.


Well alright then! Sorry, missed that tidbit.

Liberty's Edge

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I really hope they get a one-handed reload ability, otherwise sword-and-pistol is shot (heheh). Something like "Versatile Reload: While you have at least one point of Panache, you can reload a one-handed firearm even if you are carrying or wielding an object or weapon in your other hand. You still use both of your hands to reload the firearm, so you can't reload a firearm if you only have one hand."

Just as an example. Even when holding an item in your hand, you still have limited mobility with your fingers, so I don't think this goes too far outside of reality. But especially since Quick Draw doesn't allow you to sheathe a weapon as a free action, not being able to reload like this would severely hamper anyone trying to build a sword-and-pistol swashbuckler.

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