Using the Cloakfighter archetype, questions and uncertainty for use.

[JonathonWilder]

I have found an interesting archetype, one that can actually be added to any class because of the way the game mechanics for these general archetypes work. At what levels do each of the abilities of the cloakfighter go on a class table (as it is not said with the source I'm using)?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/3rd-party-classes/super-genius-games/adept- godling/archetypes/super-genius-games---adept-godling-archetypes/cloakfight er#TOC-Bard
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Actually the general idea of taking certain class abilities and grouping them into archetypes is actually quite interesting. To be honest part of me wonders if there might be a way of considering using these class archetypes to mix and match.

[JonathonWilder]

I am still wondering how this works actually, as I am a bit uncertain.

[JonathonWilder]

Does anyone know at what levels the abilities of cloakfighter are placed?

[Chess Pwn]

Try asking in the third party forums as it's a third party product.

[JonathonWilder]

Chess Pwn wrote:

Try asking in the third party forums as it's a third party product.

This thread is in the 3rd Party forums:

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[RoboPorthos]

Looks like it would depend on the class package. So if you were a barbarian and wanted to swap out your berserker package you would start by giving up rage at level one in exchange for "improved cloak proficiency" and go sequentially from there.

Hefty price, but worth it for six seasons and a movie.

[Owen KC Stephens]

The first two abilities apply to all cloakfighters (effectively they are gained at 1st level).

Then the talents are gained at 2nd and every other level thereafter.

This balances out with what is given up by losing an archetype package for any class you add it to, but it's not always a 1-to-1 case of ability 1 replaces ability b. These archetypes were written before official Paizo archetypes had been created, and thus use a slightly different system. The end result is generally within the rage of balanced characters (though you can make an underpowered character if you add an archetype to a class with no synergy for it), but it's not as lockstep for each level.

[JonathonWilder]

Owen KC Stephens wrote:

The first two abilities apply to all cloakfighters (effectively they are gained at 1st level).

Then the talents are gained at 2nd and every other level thereafter.

This balances out with what is given up by losing an archetype package for any class you add it to, but it's not always a 1-to-1 case of ability 1 replaces ability b. These archetypes were written before official Paizo archetypes had been created, and thus use a slightly different system. The end result is generally within the rage of balanced characters (though you can make an underpowered character if you add an archetype to a class with no synergy for it), but it's not as lockstep for each level.

Thank you, that is very helpful.

My plan is to actually use Cloakfighter with Rogue to try and mimic a certain police offer turned superhero called The Cape...though I may consider the Inquisitor as well.
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Also, another consideration... what of mixing and matching class archetype packages? Like swapping out the Performer archetype package of the Bard with that of the Mystic archetype package of an Oracle.