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Well, I just threw up my notes for this scenario on the Prep Drive, including wonderful templated stuff.
Three notes:
- Shift isn't a spell-like ability - It's a supernatural ability (wonderful for not provoking when you need to get away from people), but it's marked as a spell-like ability in the scenario.
- High tier Sophini has a Hold Person in a 5th level spell slot. This supposed to be Hold Monster?
- This is more out of curiosity than anything else, but how is she getting the Expanded Summons ability? Is it just DM fiat or is there an ability that gives it to her? (I wanna summon yeth hounds!)
Looks like a good scenario - we'll see how it works when I run it tomorrow.
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I don't know if this is question should be asked here, or maybe its own thread, but I'll start it here.
Regarding GM credit and the Osirion faction boon; if I have GM Credit for a previous Osirion related mission this season, and then GM this module, do I qualify for the boon reward for the character that I apply the credit to? Also, if I now apply credit for this module to a character, and down the road GM an adventure in Osirion, can I gain the Osirion Item boon from this sheet?
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Hold monster: Yep, that sounds right.
Expanded Summons: This is akin to a priest of a deity having a few more summoning options. In this case I just wanted to ensure that Sophini had an option or two that she could actually use with her Sacred Summons feat.
Osirion Boon: Yes, I think it's fair to have a character benefit from that trigger condition so long as he or she received the GM credit. Gm credit does softly imply that your character played the adventure but may have just had an off-screen influence.
Also, be aware that for whatever reason, there are two notes about check boxes that advise checking box D. Please use check box C for the Qadira faction mission and box D for Sophini's escape.
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Regarding GM credit and the Osirion faction boon; if I have GM Credit for a previous Osirion related mission this season, and then GM this module, do I qualify for the boon reward for the character that I apply the credit to? Also, if I now apply credit for this module to a character, and down the road GM an adventure in Osirion, can I gain the Osirion Item boon from this sheet?
To expand on what John said, said character SHOULD also be Osirion faction, right?
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Hold monster: Yep, that sounds right.
Expanded Summons: This is akin to a priest of a deity having a few more summoning options. In this case I just wanted to ensure that Sophini had an option or two that she could actually use with her Sacred Summons feat.
Osirion Boon: Yes, I think it's fair to have a character benefit from that trigger condition so long as he or she received the GM credit. Gm credit does softly imply that your character played the adventure but may have just had an off-screen influence.
Also, be aware that for whatever reason, there are two notes about check boxes that advise checking box D. Please use check box C for the Qadira faction mission and box D for Sophini's escape.
Noted. Thanks for your quick responses. Time to finish making the VTT for this for tonight.
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Here's a question...
the map of the basement area/sewers has an obvious hidden door area. My players explored it. There is NO mention of it in the description of either of the map sections it connects. My players decided they wanted to go through the wall, and I had to tell them "well, umm... sure? You can break through the wall, I guess?"
So they beelined to the boss fight. My question is... why isn't there anything about it? Or if the tunnel isn't really supposed to be somewhere for the players to explore... why is it there???
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** spoiler omitted **
Why is the tunnel there in the first place? That's a byproduct of using a pre-printed Flip-Mat product. Fortunately, none of the Flip-Mats I know of have map tags requiring features like secret doors.
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I have a few specific questions regarding the prohibitions on the divine in Azir:
1) Oracles are not required to worship a specific deity. Are Oracle spells prohibited? How about their abilities?
2) Are wands/potions/scrolls of divine spells prohibited? Will using a wand of a divine spell trigger an investigation? What if it is Cure Light Wounds, a spell that is also on the Bard and Witch spell lists?
3) Should a party wish to fight off the guards rather than face deportation, is there any guidance regarding what to do with the adventure thereafter?
4) Is the DC for spotting a supernatural ability, such as channeling, the same as for using a spell?
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I ran this last night..it seemed to go pretty well, though the boss fight took a while. The party used the sewer entrance to enter the compound, triggered the trap, and started a long slog of a fight with Sophini, her apprentice, the xill, the guards, and eventually the two daemons. By the time that fight was over, everyone was pretty much worn out, and they were practically falling asleep when they went upstairs for an anticlimactic slaughter of a bunch of CR 1 guards. I think having the sewer entrance available to go through the compound in reverse order really hampers the scenario.
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I have a few specific questions regarding the prohibitions on the divine in Azir:
1) Oracles are not required to worship a specific deity. Are Oracle spells prohibited? How about their abilities?
2) Are wands/potions/scrolls of divine spells prohibited? Will using a wand of a divine spell trigger an investigation? What if it is Cure Light Wounds, a spell that is also on the Bard and Witch spell lists?
3) Should a party wish to fight off the guards rather than face deportation, is there any guidance regarding what to do with the adventure thereafter?
4) Is the DC for spotting a supernatural ability, such as channeling, the same as for using a spell?
Note that these are not official answers, but my best guesses and what I told my players when I ran the scenario.
1) Oracles are just as bad as clerics. They are still divine casters, and therefore still prohibited. (Honestly, I would think that they are just as bad, seeing as they let themselves be manipulated by the gods without even knowing who the gods are!)
2) Yes, although I let them bring their wand of cure light wounds in since the party had a witch and could show that they were in fact his arcane wands.
3) Unless the entire party is built to do sneak away, I wouldn't run the combat. Just DM Fiat it. If the players keep getting caught doing divine magic in Rahadoum, it's their own damn fault. Adventure over. (On the flip side, I made it very clear what they were getting into divine magic wise.)
4) Depends on the supernatural ability. Channel is a definite yes because you have to present your holy symbol to do it. Most others would probably be a no.
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By the time that fight was over, everyone was pretty much worn out, and they were practically falling asleep when they went upstairs for an anticlimactic slaughter of a bunch of CR 1 guards. I think having the sewer entrance available to go through the compound in reverse order really hampers the scenario.
They had an anticlimatic slaughter with the Pure Legion beating on the compound door and the guards holed up in their towers? Impressive...
The scenario is set up with multiple paths to allow for different playstyles. Your group punched through the downstairs entrance. Another group might stealth over the wall and through the well with stone shape. Another group might masquerade as slave buyers and secure the guildhouse before going into the catacombs. Another group might masquerade as food delivery and have their gear beneath their delivery and use magic to overwhelm guards.
I guess what I'm trying to say is one table's hindrance is another table's opportunity.
But thank you, I'm glad to hear it went well.
-Ben.
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Note that these are not official answers, but my best guesses and what I told my players when I ran the scenario.
I would concur with these responses (and I'm not officia, either), and note that the Pure Legion has overwhelming force in Azir. They cannot hope to escape everyone all the way back to the Society Lodge in Manaket.
-Ben.
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I have a few specific questions regarding the prohibitions on the divine in Azir:
1) Oracles are not required to worship a specific deity. Are Oracle spells prohibited? How about their abilities?
I think they still need a divine focus for most spells don't they? I think its going to be hard to convince the guards that you cast spells, have a holy symbol, but aren't working for that guy.
2) Are wands/potions/scrolls of divine spells prohibited? Will using a wand of a divine spell trigger an investigation? What if it is Cure Light Wounds, a spell that is also on the Bard and Witch spell lists?
[unfounded speculation] They're probably ok with items because the power comes from the item, not a god [/unfounded speculation]
3) Should a party wish to fight off the guards rather than face deportation, is there any guidance regarding what to do with the adventure thereafter?
4) Is the DC for spotting a supernatural ability, such as channeling, the same as for using a spell?
channeling specifically requires you to present your holy symbol, so I'd make it the same.
other supernatural abilities don't have verbal somatic or material components, so i might take 6 off their spot checks.
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Played this today, will be running it in two weeks. Great setup, although with seven players we ended up running long by going in the sewers and drawing everything in thanks to the rogue botching his attempt to silence the guard at the stairs.
"I got this!"
I thought this was also a great chronicle sheet. A useful wand and some cool boons. I am just really curious what the new spells are. Does anyone with Demon Slayers care to elaborate. Is the book a good investment as a whole?
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Yeah you are right. I really like the idea of how this boon works, but I can't see myself using any of these spells on my current characters. If I had a cleric I still played (or Paladin at all), I could see the Protection from Outsiders being something I might want for this season though.
Edit: Actually on second thought, having to name the outsider subtype means you will only be able to cast it after combat has started most of the time. When most people cast protection spells, it is just prior to a known combat.
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If anyone feels the need for a frightening mental image to start the day.
My Rahadoumi Wizard8/Bloatmage1 decided to fit in in the baths while looking for Eando. Refusing to remove his water protected spell component pouch, ring or amulet (ring dosnt come off anymore.. fingers too fat), he did however opt for a bathrobe and scared the living hell outta the other patrons of the change room. He then proceeded to enter the pool to sit next to Eando.
The pool itself then nearly crested the limits of the sides.
A Soaked Bloatmage then manage to exit the pool by a dimension door.
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By the time that fight was over, everyone was pretty much worn out, and they were practically falling asleep when they went upstairs for an anticlimactic slaughter of a bunch of CR 1 guards. I think having the sewer entrance available to go through the compound in reverse order really hampers the scenario.They had an anticlimatic slaughter with the Pure Legion beating on the compound door and the guards holed up in their towers? Impressive...
Frankly, yes. I rolled to see how long the Legion would take to show up, and it was something along the lines of 12 minutes. The fight in the basement took less then two minutes, and the fight with the guards upstairs took two rounds, and maybe another 2-3 rounds for the fight with the demons in the stables. Still left plenty of time to grab the prisoners and dimension door away.
I'm not saying it was a bad adventure, I just think throwing 16 CR 1 opponents at a table of 8-9th level PCs isn't a very challenging or exciting choice. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the heist idea, but the opponents (minus the boss, who I thought was well designed) could have used a bit more oomph. And I really didn't like how a (trivially easy at this tier) DC 25 gather information check was all it took to find out about the back entrance.
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Frankly, yes. I rolled to see how long the Legion would take to show up, and it was something along the lines of 12 minutes. The fight in the basement took less then two minutes, and the fight with the guards upstairs took two rounds, and maybe another 2-3 rounds for the fight with the demons in the stables. Still left plenty of time to grab the prisoners and dimension door away.
I'm not saying it was a bad adventure, I just think throwing 16 CR 1 opponents at a table of 8-9th level PCs isn't a very challenging or exciting choice. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the heist idea, but the opponents (minus the boss, who I thought was well designed) could have used a bit more oomph. And I really didn't like how a (trivially easy at this tier) DC 25 gather information check was all it took to find out about the back entrance.
When I ran it, my party decided to go through the top by posing as slave buyers. Having the lots of people up there made it feel like it was heavily guarded while not being killer for the PCs when they started hostilities. When it came time for the fight, the PCs finished taking care of the guards at about the same time that the daemons teleported in. And honestly, let them steamroll it. Let them think it was pretty easy - since the harder fights are somewhere else.
Also, they get a lot scarier when you use their Improved Sunder feat.
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Wow, this took me a while to figure out. Evidently Sophini's arcane bond is her dagger? That's a rather interesting choice.
A couple of things I want to make sure about so that I don't get them wrong.
First, with her arcane bond, she can recall any of her spells... including the few in her book that are not memorized. This really gives her a lot of versatility (especially at 8-9 where there are two of her!)
While she has the ability to summon yeth hounds and vargouilles, there really is no reason for her to do so. Thus, I am likely going to throw other critters are the PCs (since it is not dictated what she summons)... stuff like Fiendish Dire Lions. She can cast these from while invisible, and as a standard action.
The big question, though, is whether she should hold back her arcane bond spell until she's had to retreat. The Daemons could d-door her back to the fight, so she pretty much doesn't need that. If it weren't for her tactics calling out using Dimension Door to get away (and getting 800' away probably means she is gone) I'd use it for Teleport. Instead, I am thinking another Summon V would be good?
The "boss fight" really looks like it could be a challenge. 2 casters, a Xill to help guard, and potentially up to 5 Daemons (depending on how things go)? Wowsers... they better bring their "A" game.
I really like how she has an extra spell component pouch... shows that the authors have been listening to player tactics!
Here's another question: Would Sophini trigger the alarms (blackfire candle, etc) herself? I ask, because of how it will affect the time before the authorities arrive.
Thanks for the help! Really looking forward to running this (and now wishing I had played it first)!
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Personally, I consider the arcane bond a last ditch option. The shift power gives her some range, at least in the basement, because the characters don't know where she could have gone, and depending on how the event goes down, there's even the option of the well-- shifting there and then retreating after a few hours.
Otherwise, I'd stick to the bond with the dim door or a dispel magic in case there's a dim anchor in play. Honestly, once it's completely gone south, there's not a lot of reason for her to stick around. Retreating back to the greater Blackfire circle makes good sense.
I'd also add that there's no reason the defenders don't try to lure the party into a situation optimal for their counter-ambush, either with a Riftwarden, or something summoned, and then alpha-strike with as much as possible against the adventurers. If things then go south, the BFA knows to hit the alarm, call in the Legion and escape to let the characters deal with the aftermath.
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there's actually an improvement you could make on the tactics-- have ceustodaemon reinforcements be dim door'd in by one of them, since they can take passengers, and that allows for the other one to act with a SLA or they could even jump to Sophini, get her and her friends, then all jump to where they need to go, potentially in the invisibility sphere, depending on how you swing it. That might be a little too rough, though. ;)
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there's actually an improvement you could make on the tactics-- have ceustodaemon reinforcements be dim door'd in by one of them, since they can take passengers, and that allows for the other one to act with a SLA or they could even jump to Sophini, get her and her friends, then all jump to where they need to go, potentially in the invisibility sphere, depending on how you swing it. That might be a little too rough, though. ;)
-Ben.
Oh that's just evil, hahaha. Notes taken.
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While she has the ability to summon yeth hounds and vargouilles, there really is no reason for her to do so. Thus, I am likely going to throw other critters are the PCs (since it is not dictated what she summons)... stuff like Fiendish Dire Lions. She can cast these from while invisible, and as a standard action.
She can't summon anything Fiendish as a standard. Sacred summons only applies to creatures who start out as the subtype. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/sacred-summons
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While she has the ability to summon yeth hounds and vargouilles, there really is no reason for her to do so. Thus, I am likely going to throw other critters are the PCs (since it is not dictated what she summons)... stuff like Fiendish Dire Lions. She can cast these from while invisible, and as a standard action.She can't summon anything Fiendish as a standard. Sacred summons only applies to creatures who start out as the subtype. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/sacred-summons
So, I guess I screwed that one up... misread that statement to alignment exactly matching, not subtype. And there is absolutely nothing that a NE caster can use this feat on, save for those two (useless) expanded summons.
FYI - I wasn't going by the Fiendish template, but based on the fact that summons changes the summoned creature's alignment to exactly match the casters, and it changes the spell to that type.
Well, in reality, that only affected a single casting (though it was the Summon V) - and I could have made a different (and probably more dangerous) choice at that time. The rest of their summons were handled while invisible, not being affected by anything, or in other rooms. In fact, I think I only used 3 total summons spells (1X Summon V, 1X Summon IV, 1X Summon III) - and only one was done when there was a chance to disrupt.
Dylan, thank you for pointing that out. Still would never bother to summon the Yeth Hounds or Vargouilles at this level.
Lesson learned... don't take Sacred Summons if you are NE.
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I noticed an issue when reporting this.
Under Secondary Success Conditions on page 25 it states "If Sophini escapes, check box D on the reporting sheet."
Under the Qadira faction notes on page 26 it states "If the PC's convince Jahani to form a partnership with Aaqir al'Hakim, check box D on the reporting sheet.
Maybe this season there should be a summary for each block just to make sure the right one gets done. There was clearly a misprint here, which one is which?
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I noticed an issue when reporting this.
Under Secondary Success Conditions on page 25 it states "If Sophini escapes, check box D on the reporting sheet."
Under the Qadira faction notes on page 26 it states "If the PC's convince Jahani to form a partnership with Aaqir al'Hakim, check box D on the reporting sheet.
Maybe this season there should be a summary for each block just to make sure the right one gets done. There was clearly a misprint here, which one is which?
Please see my first post in this thread. I believe the last clarification there should help out in this regard.
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Just had the most bizarre experience in my Port Godless game. THe group were playing at 5-6 with the 4 player cap. They are having a big melee with Sophini , some summoned friends and a Daeomon or two. Its a pretty tough fight but the Fighter/Witch has riddled her with arrows to a staggered condition. Her recourse was to Dimension door right out of there. She couldnt go above ground (the pure legion had arrived and she didnt know if it was safe). Her daemons were dead so she D-doored out into a safe hole in the sewers.
What i didnt expect was for her to fail her stabilisation check.. and then bleed out to death. I had to keep a straight face as I made secret roll after secret roll till she died.
I was all ready to tick box D, but ... wow... it didnt happen.
They also never found her body on their retreat so less gold.. but they lived.
Still very strange.
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Ran this last night. Party composition included 2 paladins, 2 aasimar, a tiefling, and a fighter whose back story is "escaped slave". (And a gnome bard, just for variety.)
I gave them the background on Rahadoum while still in Absalom, in case any of them would want to play different characters. No one opted out. (I have awesome players.)
In the discussion on what can and can't come into the country, we came up to an interesting discussion on paladins (surprise) in this scenario. (First, let me state - I'm not looking for ways to give paladins trouble - in fact this issue was raised by the paladin players themselves.)
Since using divine powers is illegal, as ruled by the legitimate authority of the land, and since the paladin's oath requires them to "respect legitimate authority" (CRB p.63-4), does it violate the paladin's code of conduct to use divine powers while in Rahadoum? If so, what powers? Active powers like lay on hands? Or even involuntary things like the save bonus from divine grace? Since this is an internal conflict for the paladin, it doesn't really matter if they get caught doing it or not.
We had a great RP time where the PCs worked it out for themselves, with some guidance from their "inner voice" (me). They decided that yes, it would jeopardize their paladin status to break the law flagrantly, but that if they were either in dire need or serving a greater good, it would probably be ok (or at least unavoidable). It became a recurring theme throughout the game - they creatively avoided all use of active divine powers while within Rahadoum territorial limits, until they were up against obviously fiendish opponents. All in all, a great game, culminating in the new battle cry of Iomedae, "This little box on my forehead says it's OK, let's GO!"
For future reference, though, I'm interested to hear thoughts on this. Other players in our Lodge would have pushed the limits of what they could get away with, and so it will come up (possibly also for monks, who depend on the "lawful" aspect of their alignment as well).
My feelings, based on the game I ran, was that monks won't have a problem - "lawful" is broad enough to allow for them to break the laws without totally changing alignment.
Paladins have that special code with "respect legitimate authority", though. I implied that using divine powers would be breaking the law and they would risk losing their powers, even if it was to save their own life or those of their companions - but that such a price was worth paying to "do the right thing". However, I'm not sure I would have actually enforced this, except in really obvious circumstances - and it never came up because the paladins were both awesome.
Given that Season 5 has a lot of aasimar paladins floating around, I suggest GMs give this some thought before running Port Godless. It's a great scenario, but it's really all about players accepting the consequences of their actions. It can really give paladins a great character development experience, and a chance to do something other than "enter room - smite - go to next room".
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Interesting point about the paladin's code, Scott. I played my LG cleric of Iomedae in this scenario, and felt like the tension was a bit lighter than I expected. It mostly consisted of getting past customs (polish of inconspicuous armor and a pathfinder pouch took care of that entirely off-screen) and then just not causing a ruckus in the middle of town square or anything (which, being a non-murder-hobo, was already SOP).
But then again, my cleric doesn't fall for a single instance of failing to respect legitimate authority. Even if that had been enough to shift him to NG, that's still a valid alignment for that character. But a paladin... yikes. That's dicey.
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A very strong argument can be made that a paladin would not consider that law to be valid. Its outlawing their God. How can that be legitimate? How could any mortal authority possibly have the right to do that? How can their God mind if they violate such a law?
That was certainly how my Lawful cleric of Abadar felt when he went into Rahadoum in a different scenario.
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A very strong argument can be made that a paladin would not consider that law to be valid. Its outlawing their God. How can that be legitimate? How could any mortal authority possibly have the right to do that? How can their God mind if they violate such a law?
That was certainly how my Lawful cleric of Abadar felt when he went into Rahadoum in a different scenario.
This. Paladins follow divine LAW and not mortal laws. That is why they can massacre the citizens of Geb who are undead and oppose the lawful rulers of Cheliax who consort with devils and still be "good guys".
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Paladins follow divine LAW and not mortal laws.Then what does "a paladin's code requires that she respect legitimate authority" mean?
That they follow laws made by authorities which they deem legitimate. In the eyes of a paladin this would be governments and other rule-enforcing bodies which are lawful and/or good aligned as well as those who provide justice and peace. The category of illegitimate authority would include evil and/or unjust regimes but more relevantly for this scenario, a divinely guided paladin would absolutely not regard any authority which proscribes religion to be legitimate.
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That they follow laws made by authorities which they deem legitimate. In the eyes of a paladin this would be governments and other rule-enforcing bodies which are lawful and/or good aligned as well as those who provide justice and peace. The category of illegitimate authority would include evil and/or unjust regimes but more relevantly for this scenario, a divinely guided paladin would absolutely not regard any authority which proscribes religion to be legitimate.Paladins follow divine LAW and not mortal laws.Then what does "a paladin's code requires that she respect legitimate authority" mean?
By that same logic, paladins of Sarenrae are allowed to kill any government official in Taldor without breaking their code? That seems wrong. (And not just because I have a vested interest in keeping Taldan government officials alive...)
I have real problems saying that if someone doesn't recognize your religion, it's illegitimate authority. It may not be a great idea, but it's something that is perfectly lawful. Golarion religions aren't defined on belief in a thing that may or may not exist. Any government should be allowed to say "This guy and his fan club are stirring up too much trouble, so we're going to ban his fan club since we can't really ban the guy." Good organizations can come into conflict with each other too, and they're both still legitimate.
That being said, I think the way Scott's table approached this is great. As long as the paladins are considering why they are there and temper their actions based on the laws and customs around them, I'm not too worried.
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Rahadoum is listed as a Lawful Neutral nation, and its "Laws of Man" came about by a populist movement that was widely supported by everyone but the established clergy fighting for control of the city-states. They have stood for more than two thousand years, and Rahadoum has had almost no incidences of civil war of internal strife, even when they get hit by plagues or whatever other bad things happen from not having a bunch of clerics around. As a result, Rahadoum has become a highly-educated society with a high level of political and social engagement amongst its citizens. If that doesn't make them "legitimate authority", what would?
Deciding that laws that you don't agree with aren't "legitimate" and so you don't have to follow them, is basically the definition of a chaotic alignment.
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By that same logic, paladins of Sarenrae are allowed to kill any government official in Taldor without breaking their code? That seems wrong. (And not just because I have a vested interest in keeping Taldan government officials alive...)
But a paladin of Sarenrae could absolutely fight against Taldan law enforcement officers on behaf fellow followers of Sarenrae who are being persecuted. They would probably want to not kill the Taldans but can absolutely direct violence against them. That is the paladin rejecting the legitimacy of the laws of Taldor which impinge on their ability to follow their faith and I don't see that as a problem.
I have real problems saying that if someone doesn't recognize your religion, it's illegitimate authority. It may not be a great idea, but it's something that is perfectly lawful. Golarion religions aren't defined on belief in a thing that may or may not exist. Any government should be allowed to say "This guy and his fan club are stirring up too much trouble, so we're going to ban his fan club since we can't really ban the guy." Good organizations can come into conflict with each other too, and they're both still legitimate.
Paladins are the ultimate purveyors or "my way or the highway". The paladin's way is to cultivate the worship and power of non-evil deities. Rahadoum is directly opposing that ideal. Maybe I am just more cynical about lawful alignments than most people. I don't know.
Rahadoum is listed as a Lawful Neutral nation, and its "Laws of Man" came about by a populist movement that was widely supported by everyone but the established clergy fighting for control of the city-states. They have stood for more than two thousand years, and Rahadoum has had almost no incidences of civil war of internal strife, even when they get hit by plagues or whatever other bad things happen from not having a bunch of clerics around. As a result, Rahadoum has become a highly-educated society with a high level of political and social engagement amongst its citizens. If that doesn't make them "legitimate authority", what would?
Why would a paladin, as a highly devout character, respect the tenets of a philosophy which directly villainizes them? The paladins represent the most entrenched of the clergy that got ousted. They would not go along with the regime that literally wants to wipe their kind off the planet. What makes that an illegitimate authority is their opposition to the very idea of religion, the idea that represents the foundations of a paladin's power and authority.
Deciding that laws that you don't agree with aren't "legitimate" and so you don't have to follow them, is basically the definition of a chaotic alignment.
Paladins go along with laws that they presumably find distasteful all the time, like legal slavery. This is not just a law they don't agree with. This is about laws that directly oppose the very thing (religion) that they have built their lives and identities around. That is a whole other ballgame than a CG person thinking that a law is stupid and counterproductive.
Remember that paladins are religions fanatics. They are fanatical about good things but still fanatical.