Move Action

[poundpuppy30]

I've a question. Can a person move a flaming sphere which says it requires a move action to move it, then also cast a spell, then also take a 5 foot step all in the same round? The gm i was playing with said the move action on flaming sphere doesn't count as a movement so he can still do a 5 foot step yet I disagree. Does anyone know if this is possible or impossible according to the rules?

Does the moving of a flaming shpere which takes up a move action-from concentrating on it count as a persons movement in a round or can they also do a 5 ft step too and a standard?

[Bizbag]

You didn't move, so you can take a 5' step. The fact that your move action was spent making a Flaming Sphere move is irrelevant; only that you didn't move yourself.

[James Risner]

poundpuppy30 wrote:

gm i was playing with said the move action on flaming sphere doesn't count as a movement so he can still do a 5 foot step yet I disagree.

Strangely this rule, while very clear, is misunderstood more than anything else it seems.

It is probably because it isn't intuitive.

The rule is "move for any distance" and using a move for a Flaming Sphere doesn't move your PC to a different square. So you can 5 ft step in the same round.

[Speaker for the Dead]

PFSRD wrote:

You can't take more than one 5-foot step in a round, and you can't take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance.

Using a move equivalent action doesn't prevent you from taking a 5' step.

[Sir Ophiuchus]

You can't use a move action to move if you take a five-foot step. But you can use it to do other things.

[poundpuppy30]

So then what does the spell mean by it its (a move action for you)? For instance if I wanted to draw a wand its a move action even though I didn't move my feet right so does that mean I can still move after drawing, and using something?

[Starglim]

poundpuppy30 wrote:

So then what does the spell mean by it its (a move action for you)? For instance if I wanted to draw a wand its a move action even though I didn't move my feet right so does that mean I can still move after drawing, and using something?

You get a standard action and a move action each round. If you draw and use a wand, you've used both your available actions, so you don't have a move action available, but you can take a 5-foot step because you haven't moved any distance.

[Speaker for the Dead]

Drawing a wand takes a move action but because you didn't travel any distance you can still take a 5' step.

[Alarox]

Using a Move Action =/= Moving

[Bizbag]

poundpuppy30 wrote:

So then what does the spell mean by it its (a move action for you)? For instance if I wanted to draw a wand its a move action even though I didn't move my feet right so does that mean I can still move after drawing, and using something?

In your mind, change the phrase "Move Action" to "Secondary Action". If you spend your Secondary Action to direct a Flaming Sphere, you can take a 5' step, because you haven't moved.

If you had spent your Secondary Action to move your speed, you couldn't take a 5' step.

[blahpers]

poundpuppy30 wrote:

So then what does the spell mean by it its (a move action for you)? For instance if I wanted to draw a wand its a move action even though I didn't move my feet right so does that mean I can still move after drawing, and using something?

Yes.

[Mergy]

To throw some confusion fuel on the fire, you can draw a wand as part of your move because it is 'weaponlike'. :D

[Renen]

I saw the title, and immediately knew its a dumb question about move actions and 5ft steps.
The only thing you need to look at is the fact that it says that you cant otherwise move on the round u 5ft step. So u can use a move action, or even multiple but as long as u dont MOVE from your square, u can 5ft step.

[Speaker for the Dead]

Be nice. Nothing wrong with asking a question.